What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?

[Pat Mustard]

My favourite no brainers;

I was arguing with a convinced Catholic on another forum once. He asserted that the other planets orbited the earth. He claimed that without a fixed third point of reference it was impossible to disprove him.

I pointed out that the distance of those planets from the earth was not constant, and indeed not constant in exactly the way we would expect if all of them - including the earth - was orbiting another body that occupied the exact position that the Sun happens to be in.

I didn't get a response.

We moved on to evolution, and I invited him to visit the Smithsonian to review the mountain of evidence. His reply was "what evidence?".


What are your personal classics?

My Irish teacher in secondary school used a mix of Cartesian dualism and Aquinian first cause to try and solidify belief in god in us. Even as a believer, at the time, I was sceptical of them. Now having read up on reality a hell of a lot more, I find them laughable.