RE: Quotes acceptance
March 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2011 at 12:50 pm by Emporion.)
(March 1, 2011 at 7:31 am)Rwandrall Wrote: Dude. You have had TWO conversation with theists ever ? You really can't come here and school me on the way to do things when you don't actually have enough experience to know wtf you're talking about
Only one. I wasn't ready with my ideas when I talked with the 2 Jephova's, when they were nicely showing me skydadies's big plan. I was just presenting my perfect trap theory. I am not trying to school you. I'm sorry it looked like that as it was not my intention.
(March 1, 2011 at 7:31 am)Rwandrall Wrote: Did that ever actually work for you ?
Yup, I wrote up the agument. The next day I showed it to her and she was silent. I asked her what her best excuse was and she that I had to have faith.
(February 28, 2011 at 11:44 am)Rwandrall Wrote: I have never seen that term expressed anywhere, so you'll have to explain it to me
Brain security is the ability the brain has to protect itself from emotional attacks that come from anti-critical thinking ideas. It's stronger in some and weaker in some. It kind of depends on the person.
(February 28, 2011 at 11:44 am)Rwandrall Wrote: Also, you seem to be repeating things, quoting the same message multiples times, and sounding very different from post to post...you feeling alright ?
Ok. I have chronic back pain, multiple std's, asbergers, religion disease, and autism.
The las one is true and I now have a sore throat to boot.
Actually, this is the first forum I've joined, and I'm not always completely satisfied with what I write in my posts. What did I post that was so weird?
(March 1, 2011 at 12:22 pm)corndog36 Wrote: They can't give up there beliefs because they can't face life, or more importantly, death without them. I don't think they will respond well to being "trapped". I suspect they feel somewhat trapped already.
That's exactly why my math tutor can't give up "Jesus".
(March 1, 2011 at 12:22 pm)corndog36 Wrote:(March 1, 2011 at 2:43 am)Emporion Wrote: I am still a bit confused why the longest quote is so bad as I have rudely shown in my responses the argument shredding. Is my trap theory still a bad one, even though my argument for it is clearly bad?
Nothing wrong with the logic, more with the presentation. But, I think your recent change in approach to this discussion is interesting. You seem to have found that your original, more confrontational approach was not getting the desired results. You will find it even more so with "religionists". These are people who have willfully rejected logic, in favor of faith, out of fear. They can't give up there beliefs because they can't face life, or more importantly, death without them. I don't think they will respond well to being "trapped". I suspect they feel somewhat trapped already. They create their pseudo-logical arguments in an attempt to rationalize their belief in what is the equivalent of Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny.
I'm not trying to discourage you in your efforts here, I think it's a useful exercise in logic and rhetoric. I use discussion as much to clarify my own logic as to learn to express it effectively. (and I have plenty of room for improvement in both areas.)
You mean the religionist's will be more confrontational? How could I write the argument better?