RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 18, 2016 at 3:29 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2016 at 3:46 pm by FebruaryOfReason.)
(February 17, 2016 at 1:02 pm)robvalue Wrote: One we've had recently is, "We'll see who is right when we're dead."
I would reply:
"OK, let's bet on it: You give me all your money now, then if you're right, I'll give you all your money back in the afterlife, plus all of mine."
(February 18, 2016 at 3:22 pm)AAA Wrote:(February 18, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: ^^
The issue though is you haven't really given an explanation, except an argument from incredulity.
Saying you don't know is fine. But that's not what you said, is it?
I don't know how it happened, but I DO know that it wasn't just mutation and natural selection. I also think that intelligence is the only known cause capable of explaining cellular biology, so that is my default conclusion until something else can explain it better. Do you want me to explain how the designer did it or what? It manually linked amino acids together and DNA to form a functional system. How's that?
Umm, actually, DNA can replicate itself. That's kinda the whole thing about DNA.
Meselson and Stahl demonstrated very elegantly how it does this way back in 1958. Worth looking up. Google "Semi-conservative replication". Or try this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meselson%E...experiment
You see how great science is? I can find out how things were done just by typing stuff into a computer. I can find out not just what we know, but how we know it.
But more's the point, you don't need to just take my word for it. You can do it yourself just by following the description in the link above. You'll need a centrifuge etc, but you can do it. If it wasn't possible to do it yourself with a semi-decent laboratory, none of the scientific community would have accepted it at all. If you can't get your hands on a laboratory, then go to your nearest University and tell them:
"I don't believe in semi-conservative replication. I want you to prove it to me. "
You will find them falling over themselves to show you.
But if you think God set up the whole DNA thing, that is the end of your knowledge. You can only speculate on how, or why. And no one else can help either. Their guesses are no better than yours.
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