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What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
(February 18, 2016 at 7:21 pm)AAA Wrote: No, there is a difference between them forming in nature and being considered spontaneous. Spontaneous have a negative change in free energy, yet peptide bonds do not. 

And you are misunderstanding the Meselson and Stahl experiment. It still used the enzymes, they just demonstrated that it was semiconservative rather than conservative, nonconservative, or mixed. Semiconservative just means that each new DNA strand contains one original and one new strand. 

And I am holding my biochemistry textbook that says "enzymes that have a kcat/Km ratios at the upper limits have attained kinetic perfection. Their catalytic velocity is restricted only by the rate at which they encounter substrate in the solution." Some that are perfect are acetylcholinesterase, carbonic anydrase, catalase, superoxide dismutase, and there are more listed.

I always love when a low-level amateur tries to lecture the Jet Propulsion Lab's abiogenesis research teams about biochemistry.

They know that's an issue, AAA, and that's why most of the research at the moment seems to point to rock micropores as an "assist" to the process that would normally be difficult or impossible in a free solution.

Regardless, your arguments are still  nothing more than "God of the Gaps" arguments, especially since you're relying on outright lies about information theory upon which to base your argument.

Educate yourself.

Edit to Add: I'm not just being snarky. Evolution is real. It's a thing. Cope with this fact and join us in the real world that does not require magic to exist or function. You people are so exhausting with this "God of the gaps" crap and misleading "just-so" arguments, constantly searching for some tiny fragment of knowledge humanity doesn't have so you can shelter your pathetic little Gawd under that rock. Until the rock gets lifted by new knowledge, in which case you declare, loudly, that god was never under THAT rock (e.g. Geocentrism), but is definitely under that NEXT rock over there, of which we haven't yet seen the underside.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard? - by TheRocketSurgeon - February 18, 2016 at 7:45 pm

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