It's Always Sunny - evolution versus Christianity
February 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2016 at 8:39 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(February 18, 2016 at 2:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: More attempts at obfuscating my point.
An opinion that isn't based on any evidence is what is called an UNINFORMED opinion. However an INFORMED opinion, one based on facts, is subject to change in light of new evidence.
Um, no obfuscation necessary. You are attempting to describe a well established scientific theory as merely a 'belief, speculation, and/or opinion,' and therefore not trustworthy. I am correcting you. And it is my informed opinion that you don't have a coherent grasp on the scientific method. You understand that a hypothesis and a scientific theory are two different things, yes?
And since you ignored me, I'll ask again: as a person who is so committed to the truth, how do you justify declaring the writings of a two thousand-year-old book "truth"? Just...because it says so?
Quote:Did you miss the part in my post where I stated "one can benefit from both science AND spirituality? Or did you purposefully ignore that in order to pigeon-hole me into your idea of a "theist".
Of course you can, when you afford yourself the privilege of cherry-picking which scientific evidence you accept and which you reject based on personal preference and comfort level.
Quote:Just like creationism and evolution, spirituality and science aren't mutually exclusive either. Science does not deal with spiritual matters, neither does the spiritual deal with the natural. Nowhere does the bible tell you not to utilize doctors, it's when medicine fails then you have a right to go directly to God.
See above.
Quote:Here is testimony from a lady who claims to have been Divinely healed after science told her it was impossible for her to have a baby. What's unique about this video is that the original audio from 1958 is included at the end which corroborates her testimony.
Explain that.
Oh, for Christ's sake, Huggy. Where to begin? First of all, the video doesn't explain what type of fertility issue the woman suffered from, so we are missing crucial information right from the beginning. Many, many, women who suffer from infertility problems go on to bear children. Just like many people who have been given terminal cancer diagnoses go spontaneously into remission against all odds. Rare, medical phenomena occur all the time. My question to you is: where is the line of demarcation between rare medical occurrences and divine intervention, and how did you establish such criteria? And remember, if you are asserting something is a 'miracle' that burden of proof is yours. Of course, all of this ignores the fact that testimonials are one of the lowest quality, and least reliable forms of scientific evidence. People lie.
Quote:Your own article states that theories ARE NOT facts, which was my original point.
Lol, yes you are correct that they are two different things. You just don't seem to understand what those differences are.
"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." Got it?
Quote:i said the bible stated that time was relative, you know as in time being different in relation from one thing to another. "One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." States exactly that fact.
Right, and your point was that the bible figured it out before Einstein did. My point is that Einstein figured out a whole hell of lot more than simply 'time is relative,' so why isn't the theory of special relativity outlined in detail in your book? I'll answer that. Because the bible is not actually predicting anything. Someone came across one vague quote that could be interpreted as 'time is relative,' already having that very specific idea in their mind to start with. Nothing supernatural about that.
Quote:I'm welcome for what exactly? For you posting a website that was at the center of the same debate a year ago?
For providing you with a reputable, scientifically accurate source of information. You should try using it some time.
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