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Poll: Would you eat synthetic meat instead of the meat we get from slaughtered animals?
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Yes.
63.16%
12 63.16%
No.
10.53%
2 10.53%
I have doubts about whether it would be just as healthy as the meat we eat right now.
10.53%
2 10.53%
I think it would be too expensive and not worth the cost of production.
5.26%
1 5.26%
I think it would be strange, to say the least. Unnatural. I can't imagine eating something grown in a lab.
10.53%
2 10.53%
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Synthetic meat
RE: Synthetic meat
(February 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think I'm being obscure in the least bit.  There's oil and animal products.  That's it, that's all.  I think it's an uncomfortable choice, difficult to process considering your position on livestock production, but I'm -certain- that I haven't been vague about it.

False dichotomy.  Compost is a thing. Green manure is a thing. Things that many farms use successfully.
You have a lot of false dichotomies in your argument, actually.

Addressing False dichotomy #2:
Ceasing to eat dead animals does not mean we would stop needing any farm animals.  You paint it as one or the other.  Last time I addressed this, you just ignored this point.  Repeatedly.

Addressing False dichotomy #3:
Dairy cows and goats, and chicken laying eggs do not require killing to get food from them, and their shit can still be used as fertilizer! We don't need the number of existing food animals to provide fertilizer to other farms.  Literally tons of it is never used.  We could reduce our farm animal population by 3/4 (just to dairy and eggs) and still have plenty of animal based fertilizer to feed humanity.  Particularly since a lot less food would be going back onto animals that are raised only for meat.

Addressing False dichotomy #4:
Even if humans stop eating the dead dairy animals and egg laying chickens who die of old age, the other options do not only include "throwing their carcasses in a ditch".  Humans have pets that require meat. Or humans can continue to use the smaller number of dead animals as additional food, without raising expressly for that purpose.

Summary:
We don't need to use animal products (even oil, which is an animal product) to farm. But we still can, at a much reduced rate, and still have all the animal products we require.
I realize that you are highly invested in this way of thinking because it is your lively hood.  I also realize from previous experience that you will just strawman me, or more likely, not even address these points directly (again), but I wanted to put it in here for other people to read.

P.S. I have no problem with people eating meat.
Looking for better alternatives to current food situations, however, is a really great thing that many people are doing.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:12 am
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2016 at 12:14 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by brewer - February 23, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by brewer - February 23, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by c172 - February 23, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:41 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by c172 - February 23, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 23, 2016 at 10:41 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by paulpablo - February 23, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by paulpablo - February 23, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by paulpablo - February 23, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by paulpablo - February 23, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:54 am
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 10:52 am
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 10:53 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:55 am
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Cyberman - February 23, 2016 at 12:37 pm
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 12:07 pm
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2016 at 12:12 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by I_am_not_mafia - February 23, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 12:50 pm
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Iroscato - February 23, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by I_am_not_mafia - February 23, 2016 at 3:17 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by c172 - February 23, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 23, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 23, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Athene - February 23, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 23, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by I_am_not_mafia - February 23, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by ignoramus - February 23, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Aroura - February 23, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:47 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Aroura - February 23, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by brewer - February 23, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:36 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 7:15 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Aroura - February 23, 2016 at 9:17 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Living in Death - February 23, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 8:48 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Living in Death - February 23, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Excited Penguin - February 23, 2016 at 8:59 pm
Synthetic meat - by LadyForCamus - February 23, 2016 at 9:08 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Aroura - February 23, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 9:08 pm
Synthetic meat - by LadyForCamus - February 23, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Aroura - February 23, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 24, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by bennyboy - February 23, 2016 at 9:38 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by paulpablo - February 24, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by Jackalope - February 24, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 25, 2016 at 12:01 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Jackalope - February 25, 2016 at 1:57 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by account_inactive - February 25, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by I_am_not_mafia - February 25, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2016 at 1:50 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by Thumpalumpacus - February 28, 2016 at 5:03 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 28, 2016 at 3:11 am
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 28, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Synthetic meat - by vorlon13 - February 28, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Synthetic meat - by KUSA - February 28, 2016 at 3:29 pm

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