(February 24, 2016 at 5:58 pm)Old Baby Wrote:(February 24, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Drich Wrote: nuuupe
Your moving the goal posts old sport, that intelectual dishonesty.
I added quote tags to the actual arguement I addressed in the above copy, and I will provide them here again:
Do you see it? The proof of noah's ark and validation of the bible has been taken off the table. You made the statement If you believed in "X" and I taught "X" you would not believe what I taught, the only reason stated was because "You are an ass hole." to go back on what I quoted and change the parameters of the discussion is a dishonesty.
but again BCB (Big cry baby) You specifically stated then even if you already believed what i believed you would not believe anything I said. which means your measure of truth is based on the 'feelings' you have for the individual providing the narrative.
LOL... wow. Typical, the only way to get around the argument is to construct a huge transparent strawman. That's deliciously weak.
Reiterating for my own enjoyment. I was commenting on YOUR Christianity, meaning the authenticity of your Christian born-again experience given the evidence of your rampant assholery, not on the historicity of your claims. The historicity is beside the point, hence the statement that even if I believed in bible-based Christianity, I wouldn't believe in yours.
Spin that you fuckwad.
Call me crybaby some more. I laugh. You lose.
It's actually BCB/BIG Cry baby, you avatar really helps lock in that visual. So if we are both agreed then I will lock that name in for you, and maybe it will catch on since you are so accepting of it.. Kinda like Minnie, Ca-rots and what'evs..
As far as you main point, so long as you are willing you admit you moved from this statement:
"Even if I believed in bible-based Christianity, I wouldn't believe in yours, because you're an asshole."
to this one:
Quote:I was commenting on YOUR Christianity, meaning the authenticity of your Christian born-again experience given the evidence of your rampant assholery, not on the historicity of your claims.
Then I could simply point out that Jesus Himself was considered an asshole as well. So much so it literally Got him killed the worst way possible back then. Why? was it because he was an asshole for the sake of being mean? No. he was deemed an asshole because the life he lived and taught was in stark contrast to the 'bible believers' of his day. You see, they like you were so wrapped up in their own self righteousness they were no longer able to see and recognize the righteousness of God. Their hearts were beyond cold and completely callous to God, so their experience in religion was about worshiping the method of worship, rather than God. When Christ entered the scene the contrast His life brought, by living the will of the Father threatened the life the pharisees wanted to live. (worshiping the method of worship/like blindly behaving a certain way because that what worshipers are supposed to look like) Now know, at no point did Jesus care or concerned Himself with how the Ass-"holiness" he brought to the self righteous was perceived.
So then why should I care how this effects the self righteous, If I bring the same message and same teaching style? In other words; if I bring the same message Christ brings and teach it the way he teaches it, then would it not elicit the same response by the self righteous?
Do you see what I did their?
I baited you using Christ's very own same teaching style, The same style he used with the rich young ruler. (the RCB/Rich cry baby) asked what it would take for him/RCB to enter heaven. Christ set fourth a standard, and waited till the RCB committed himself by boasting about being able to keep that standard since he was a child, before Christ showed him how and why he fell short. then Christ laid out what his life should have been, which put eternal life well beyond his/RCB's grasp. which was to sell all he owned and give it away. then went the RCB left Christ made one final example from RCB Failure.
I totally got what you said from the start, and I saw you were heavy with your own self righteousness (how else is one able to discern truth by being able to identify that only assholes can't have it?) So I made you(BCB) commit yourself so you could not back out, (like Christ baited RCB)
Then when you were completely committed by your own pride and arrogance, I in this very post laid out biblical examples of "Ass- Holy-ness" (get it? ass HOLY) in that Jesus was beyond Holy and still considered an ass, by people like you. Then i used you own statements and material to show you how and why your assessment fails, and how your assessment compares with that of the pharisees. In otherwords you are an atheist version of a pharisee. You don't believe in God but if you did his followers would have to act and behave in a way suitable to you before you could acknowledgment them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
So sorry sport but that is not how Christianity works. According to Christ Himself He and He alone is the one who determines who is and who is not a Christian. The title and names, ranks or positions we award ourselves or others give us, have absolutely no bearing on our salvation status or who we are in the body of believers.
So like me or hate me all you want BCB. Because in the end your assessment and a handful of use toilet paper will end up in the same place.