(March 3, 2016 at 6:52 am)AJW333 Wrote:(March 3, 2016 at 6:03 am)robvalue Wrote: Yes, the distinction is that you want to make the unknown sound more mysterious than it is. You want there to be a supernatural. It doesn't mean there is.its not that I want there to be a supernatural, I'm simply pointing out that the supernatural exists, ie there are events that really do take place which are outside of, or in violation of natural law. life from non-life would be one such event.
It may be natural, it may not. Concluding that it's not, because it's currently unknown, is the argument from ignorance.
concerning the argument from ignorance, I don't think you understand what I'm saying. If we have natural laws that define the way things work and something completely violates that law, this isn't just an "unknown," but according to the dictionary definition, it is something supernatural.
(March 3, 2016 at 6:33 am)pocaracas Wrote: Did I correct you on the definition of "supernatural"?How would you define the word "supernatural?"
Or did I provide a reason for the existence of the word?
Maybe... just maybe... you will come to learn that life from non-life can happen through mere chemistry.
That the exact mechanism by which it has happened on this planet some 4 billion years ago hasn't been found means little in terms of the very real possibility that it can be found.
Supernatural.... I define that as I define magic.
Superman would be supernatural.... the Flash, too... Batman, on the other hand, seems natural
Harry Potter is obviously supernatural, much like the Jedi, but unlike warp engines, which are just sci-fi.
Superman and flash and all those magical beings cannot be because of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Do try to keep in mind that just because we humans haven't managed to explain a particular phenomenon, it doesn't mean that this phenomenon is magical.... it just means that its mechanism eludes us, for the time being.
There are even some phenomena that will likely forever elude us, such as the Big Bang, or the exact mechanism by which abiogenesis happened on this planet... but that does not mean, in the slightest, that those phenomena happened due to some magical force.
