fr0d0 Wrote:as far as I'm concerned, the IDEA (because that's all it is) is still undefeated.
Well if its simply an idea...if an idea is all it is simply an idea - its got no substance or support attached to it all..then its undefeated by default until any evidence, any real support is provided at all...
We do not have to go about proving a negative here....you propose that God doesn't need evidence yet you don't give any evidence for how that's not just simply 'an idea'.
Where is your support? Who says God doesn't need evidence any less?
Sure you can't believe in God with evidence SO FAR at least....guess what? Because there ISN'T any evidence!
If evidence of God appeared would it just be ignored then? Yeah right.
But the point is that you need to provide evidence for that claim...we don't have to DISPROVE your completely unsupported claim.
Other things require evidence so why not God? Sure...you don't need evidence to BELIEVE in him...you can believe in him just on faith - the only reason you can't believe in him on evidence is because there isn't any evidence!
You can believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster on faith too you know...theoretically. There is no evidence so if you believe in the FSM you believe in it on "faith"....
But why SHOULDN'T the FSM, or God require evidence to believe more than anything else? Why treat God as a special case? And how is he any different to the FSM..?
Because its theoretically possible to believe in the FSM on "faith" just like God...and you 'can't' on evidence simply because....there isn't any evidence! If evidence turned up you could believe in God based on evidence THEN!
There is no evidence of God so you need to believe in God on 'faith'. There is ALSO no evidence of the FSM: so you need to believe in the FSM on 'faith' too.
BUT...as I said - that's only becasue there ISN'T any evidence of God or the FSM...if there was you COULD believe in them on evidence...
But why SHOULD you not require evidence for God? It would be the same for the FSM....should the FSM also be simply reasonable and rational to believe in on "faith" simply because there is no evidence so it CAN'T be believed on evidence?
I don't think faith is a good thing lol. Faith is the FSM, Zeus, the IPU and God....simply because there is no evidence lol. I mean see my sig....people believe in God not only in spite of the lack of evidence...but sometimes BECAUSE of the lack of evidence. Bad reason. Very irrational...
That's faith for you.
EvF
