(March 14, 2016 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(March 14, 2016 at 2:41 pm)KUSA Wrote: Can't walk is one thing, won't walk is another.
Wont in what context? You wont dishwash 40 hours a week, why? Because you don't have to. So does that give me the right to force you to dishwash?
Again, I would hate to be your spouse, I could see you coming home to your stay at home wife "FUCK YOU I PAY ALL THE BILLS".
What is really moronic is you think "sink or swim" is economical. Nope, it costs more to society to dump people in the street where they can become desperate, then we imprison them for mostly non violent crimes and mix them in with violent people so that when they get out we have to deal with even worse off people.
Criminalizing poverty is what you are doing. It is not only bad economics, it is sick and immoral.
And again, you also stupidly think because I don't value the same things you do, I am somehow saying everyone has to be poor as some class loyalty oath which is bullshit. You also stupidly assume that because I say people don't want the same things you do, somehow I am claiming nobody should be paid more and nobody should move up, which is also bullshit.
You aren't making any argument for anything but your own selfishness.
The better you educate people, and the more you pay them and the healthier they are, it makes society MORE stable. "Fuck you I got mine" does not make you compassionate nor does it make you an economist.
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So Greece and Italy are what? Flukes?? Bad none existent examples of when government give aways don't make society better?
Greece is the Model society of when socialism meets entitlement!! they average between 40 and 60%!!! Unemployment! They have driven out ALL Industry Except tourism, and Basic infrastructure. The Government is So Big it employs over 50% of the 40% of the population who actually works! So then ask yourself who pays for all the government issued entitlements and government jobs they all demand? Not the remaining 40% of the 40% of the population who are employed, but the rest of the EU!! Italy is doing marginally better, and this is what you people want for the US?
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/y...yment-rate
So then what happens when the money runs out? what happens when entitlement exceed the goverment's ablity to pay for them? CRIME Happens!
https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReport...?cid=17126
Greece is the 'bad neighborhood/getto' of the EU.
So all the BS you just spouted about socialism and government give aways as being cheaper... All crap. Not a word of truth in it. Or do you see 'entitled Americans' being less lazy than entitled Greeks? That some how it will stop with health care and free college? In truth people their is a trade. The government give aways trade your entitlements for your freedoms. Nothing is ever free. If you get X they will want ABC.
What's wrong with making people get off their asses and earning what they have, or leaving them behind? Isn't that Darwinism at it's core? why are we building society around it's least productive people? are we truly looking to regress into a more primitive state?