RE: Trump versus Clinton?
March 21, 2016 at 7:19 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2016 at 7:44 pm by scoobysnack.)
(March 21, 2016 at 7:02 pm)abaris Wrote:(March 21, 2016 at 6:52 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Communism is really fascism at the top, and collectivism for the masses. Communism is really a way to control a brainwashed public, while keeping their power suppressed, and the public content thinking it's a utopia. It's the reason the Chinese communist party restricts internet access, to create harmony. They are actually very nationalistic. It's almost like national socialism. Hitler was all about creating a mind controlled public, and so is communism. Most communists I come across always try to hide under another label, usually socialists, because they need to lie to get their agenda going. Communism was always meant to be a scam, which is why all communist governments fail, but the leadership always has it good.
A bit more of ignorant hogwash? Well, what else should one expect?
Just because the Chinese call themselves communists doesn't mean they are. They're totalitarian, but even the basics of communism are absent. They don't soften their totalitarian rule by taking care of their population. There's no healthcare, no social security and no workplace regulations to mention. There is however unchained capitalism, which should be another hint that this is not a communist regime, since the state, or more likely certain persons in the hierarchy, make a hell of a profit. The state on the other hand doesn't own shit. It's all private.
I won't go into the Hitler rubbish again, since I'm rather tired of adressing yet another uninformed opinion. And I'm sure you met a lot of communists. Maybe some reading - books, I know that's a scary concept - would do you some good. Such as what Marx really put at the base of his philosophy. Yes, philosophy, since Marx never claimed to be anything else than a philosopher presenting an ideal.
Sure I'll agree China isn't communist if you will also say we have never had true capitalism. Economic theories will never be achieved on either spectrum, as they are always a mix. Yes I would agree the Chinese government is authoritarian, but I would also say more collectivist ideologies are authoritarian. It's all about forcing people against their will. Collectivism attempts to convince people it's in their best intersts go accept the sacrifice of personal liberty for the greater good. Hitler was one of the ones to implement universal healthcare. The ruling class will always live better then the masses obviously whether it's capitalism or communism. Capitalism at least allows a chance to move up, where communism keeps people in their place.
The only way communism will ever happen is through authoritarianism. I don't think you ever listened to the ex KGB agent who exposed how communism really worked. Basically those who support communism will be the first to be killed because their idea of communism will not match what communism really is and be the biggest threat to the new government. Really hope you take the time to listen to this because it will wake you up to the fact communists are being scammed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
Another probably better video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g