(March 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: May I ask for a citation please?
I'd probably start with the synthesis report from the IPCC's 4th Assesment. Then look at the primary models in Working Group 1 of the main report (AR4). You'll find they outline the modelling approach there and do take into account the effect of changes in the radiative forcing from the sun.
If you're not satisfied with that you'll find the references to the primary peer-reviewed litearture for each modelling approach in the reference section.
I'm slightly surprised by your position here, in that most people (skeptics included) agree that changes in solar radiative forcing simply cannot account for the observed changes in the climate system over the last few hundred years. Most skeptics base their objections around uncertainties in climate feedbacks (specifically the cloud albedo feedback). Obviously that is in no way a solid argument but I mention it only because your position is slightly unusual.
(March 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: If you are correct then how do you differentiate between naturally reoccurring weather events and events induced by anthropogenic climate change? How do you define natural weather? How do you distinguish the manmade trend from it?
In climate science, especially climate change studies we tend to see a focus on changing trends, in mean global Co2 Concentration and Mean global temperature for example. We analyse how these trend change over time and in relation to one another. I'm not sure why you would expect us to try and differentiate between 'natural' weather and 'anthropogenic' weather given that the argument is we are affecting the whole climate system as opposed to particular events.
(March 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Not according to the Welsh Assembly Government:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6932667.stm
Again, our industry is virtually a skeleton of what it once was, please answer the question.
The artcile clearly states that Welsh Co2 emmisions are the highest in the U.K. per person. Icleand for instance is globally one of the lowest Co2 contributing countries but per capita it's one of the highest.
Cheers
Sam
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"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" William Shakespeare (Measure for Measure: Act 1, Scene 4)
