RE: A problem with how theists think.
March 28, 2016 at 1:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2016 at 1:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Everything in this world (universe) requires a cause, because it is contingent."God" escapes this observation of yours how, precisely? What is it you know about god, and how did you come to know it?
Quote:The evidence points to the universe having a beginning, and therefore everything in the universe (world) must have also had a beginning (or to have originated from outside of the universe) That which is non-contingent by definition does not dependent on something else for it's existence.I assume you're going to stick with "the evidence"...when you begin to discuss god? I'm afraid that defining something into existence is going to be pointless in this discussion with me. I want to see something that -fits- the definition. Words exist, neither you nor I dispute that, but we're not talking about words....are we?
Quote:In any case, it seems difficult to me, to make an argument which states that everything must have a cause/beginning and have this system exclude itself (or am I misunderstanding). It appears that you are saying, that everything must have a beginning (explanation for it's existence), yet are using this to say there is no beginning?I'm not saying anything Road, but nice try, lol. I don't know. I haven't the foggiest, but that doesn't matter much in context, it's simply an issue of consistency. You seem to think you know something. Let's hear that. Tell me it's more than defining the word "dragon". That can't be all there is to god, can there?
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