(March 14, 2011 at 8:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: ...because your feelings are hurt? Nice logic.
So if God made humans indestructible that would make him real? Bull shit.
On the one hand, you guys moan that heaven would be torture in it's perfection, and on the other about how God can't exist because life isn't like your fairy tale version of heaven. Both are wrong, and both demonstrate gross ignorance of the reality of faith.
Then you champion the "realist atheist" who can cope with their shit lives.
Grow a brain and go figure out some shit.
That is only our complaints, yet you do the exact opposite. You say heaven would be grand and that it is perfect is the reason why it exists?!? God does things that you dont like and that therefore makes him real?
Also, another thing..If I was indestructable, I would REALLY consider it great evidence that I was created by a perfect being. I expect things create by a perfect being to work VERY well and last a VERY long time. Your standards of "perfect" are much, much lower than the standards atheists have for perfect. In fact it makes your claims to be suspect that you have such lowered standards of evidence for it.
If I told you I believed that Goblins roamed the Earth, but on questioning me you found my standards for evidence are extremely low, wouldnt you think me not only wrong, but somewhat of a moron? If you demanded high standards of evidence for such claims and I said "you are such a whiner! Just because the Goblins dont slave to your beck and call then you have to act childish and not believe in them. Why dont you grow up and believe in Goblins already!". Yeah, not only would you think me a moron, but you would actually be offended.
Lets look at your standards of evidence. You are an "agnostic theist", which means you believe in a god, and you also believe that he is unknowable. If he is unknowable, and you honestly believe that, then how can you believe a god even exists? He's unknowable! Meaning you cant be sure one way or another!