The Problem with Christians

[pocaracas]

The way I see it, abiogenesis isn't about faith, but about looking at all information science has gathered from star formation, to planet formation, to physics, to chemistry, to biology.

At some point in the past, our sun was a just a bunch of hydrogen gas and some remnants from a 1st or 2nd gen star. It coalesced, through gravity, and eventually ignited becoming the scorching yellow ball we know. Some leftover material from that initial cloud also coalesced and formed the planets, with the heavier materials, as you'd expect, nearer to the center, where gravity is stronger.
The coalescence of these materials was probably not a peaceful one, with some banging around, which would give our planet it's internal geology - a hot core, a cool outer shell.
Water methane and who knows what other chemicals then abounded on the surface. Eventually, some bonded, because that's how chemistry works... and... biology began.
Biology is chemistry, chemistry is physics, particularly quantum mechanics. And QM has been shown to be right, time and time again... down to it's more general form: QCD, with the relatively recent discovery of the Higgs boson.

There is this whole framework on which science is based that can account for abiogenesis... even if the exact mechanism hasn't been found... it can account for it.
Then, there's the theist position, where an extra entity must be present to provide some extra spark into the natural chemistry so as to turn it into biology.

Why should we postulate such an entity?
It's not required.

It opens up a can of worms. One that not even believers are ready to delve through. Thus they wave it away with "out of space and time"... as if that means anything. But it just shows how limited and bound our language is - out of space? Not in space? Then what does it mean to exist?
Going down this path, Darth Vader comes into existence, too. And the Force, and Harry Potter and magic and Warp drive and Krypton, and Superman and Ironman and...... then you come back to reality and realize that the entity is just as created as all these fictional characters.
I'm not saying they're impossible to exist.... but our present awareness of their existence is based on our own imagination.

Being aware of this "origin story", one realizes that the most intellectually honest opinion to have on the subject of life arising on this planet is abiogenesis - no extra entity is required.

May I suggest that until a proof of abiogenesis is discovered, the entire concept is on very shaky ground. We don't even have a detailed theoretical formula for how we ended up with DNA, apart from some general suggestions of amino acids forming proteins by chance. Until abiogenesis can be physically demonstrated, a supernatural cause is very much in the picture.

Mate, you're not getting it.
Abiogenesis merely tells you that whatever happened, happened in accordance to the universally patent natural world.
The exact mechanism is unknown. People are working on it.

You are wanting to claim that whatever happened, happened in accordance to the unevidenced magic brought forth by an invisible, non-interventionalist, "personal" deity.

I don't know how else to say this... to put the god claim at the same level as the natural one is, at best, dishonest.