A response to "upping the ante" on pascals wager

[Nihilist Virus]

(I'm starting this thread in response to another thread. I don't know the exact rules on doing this so I'll vaguely reference it, but it should be clear which one it is)

On another thread a point has been made that since Jesus told an individual that he need to sell all his belongings and give to the poor, if any christian even owns a tv they are living in perpetual sin. And that it couldn't hurt their chances of getting to heaven.

That is not what I said in that thread. You express uncertainty about the rules of this forum. Lying about other members is against those rules, wouldn't you think?

I said in another time and in another place that owning a TV is deliberate sin. In UPPING THE ANTE ON PASCAL'S WAGER, I am making a DIFFERENT ARGUMENT. Do you understand?

Lets assume this is true.  Does this mean mean that if all atheist lived by Jesus words it wouldn't hurt? Let me explain, using the said account of Jesus, maybe this wouldn't inspire an atheist to truly give all of his belongings but what if this scripture inspired them to give a donation to a homeless shelter? Or donate clothes? Or maybe give money to refugees in Syria?

The world would be a better place if we all lived like Jesus. That's what Jesus wanted, all he got was the church. Insert Bad Luck Brian here.

If you are an atheist that believes in humanism, does this prove that living by christ's standards, even if you can't fully live up to it, is it better for you and humanity? Does this prove that living as a christian is the best for the world?

Living as a Christian and following Jesus' words are two different things.

Saying that living by the words of Jesus would improve society and saying that the words of Jesus are the best thing for society are two different things. He had some ideas (which were hardly new) which, if practiced, would improve society, but he also said a lot of stuff that got his ass killed.

I don't believe the answer to those questions is yes. I believe humans can do good to humans for the sake of humanity. But if an atheist makes a point that christian don't live up to christs standards, what is the point that you're making? That christs standards are supreme? Or that we're all just selfish, and this proves that Jesus words aren't worth noting? Or something else? I just don't understand the point that is being made

The point is that Christians need to finally understand that they're not the moral authority.