(April 14, 2016 at 8:37 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(April 14, 2016 at 8:19 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: As soon as your god mathematics is supported by demonstrable, falsifiable, verifiable evidence, then it will no longer be a member of the set of unevidenced and unsupported existential claims...then we can talk.
I altered your quote. Falsifiability and empirical verification are not a requirements for all forms of knowledge. They do not apply to mathematics nor do they apply to logic nor philosophy. Without the findings of these branches of knowledge natural science would be baseless and impossible.
Math may just be a concept of the mind.
There are 3 ways something can be said to exist:
1. in reality
2. a concept of the mind
3. a product of language
If you are claiming that your god is a concept of the mind, then we agree.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
