(April 16, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(April 15, 2016 at 6:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Something is objective if it exists and could be known independently of who knows about it or even if no one learns anything about it at all.
The problem with this is that there's no way to demonstrate that what is known is independent of the nature of the knowers. We're all human and so we may share certain cognitive realities that are universal within the species, but yet are not truly universal. We can't be sure that mathematics is independent of the nature of the knower, so we can't simply conclude that it is objective. This is a systematic flaw with your definition of objective when applied to concepts.
Any other definition undermines the notion of true objectivity. At best all that remains is intersubjectivity. In my opinion that approach severs the relationship between first principles and external reality.
