Can anyone please refute these verses of Quran (or at least their interpretations)?

[paulpablo]

Hi everyone! First time poster here. I consider myself to be agnostic; I was born in a muslim family , but I abandoned my faith in my early 20's, alhtough I had been a skeptic ever since my teenage. Because when I heard all the Islamic stories in my text books, I just found them stupid. 

Anyways my question here is regarding some verses of Quran. Just recently, I was watching Zakir Naik's debate with an atheist. The atheist asked how do you know the Quran is word of God; he replied that because there is science in Quran that the modern scientists have come to know about very recently,but it was mentioned in Quran recently, and then Zakir Naik quoted the following verses;

21:30 Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? 
He claims that above verse mentions big bang.

And the following verse he claims that tell us that earth is spherical:
79:30 And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); (I do realize that Zakir Naik is just a showman; and that this verse does not say earth is spherical)

And then he mentions there is genetics, embryology etc in the Quran that science came to know about recently but was mentioned in Quran 1400 years ago.

So will someone please refute the above verses and refute any other so called scientific verses that Muslim apologists claim to be contained in Quran or Hadith

Regards

Refute any other scientific verses?  That task would take probably a year to do and you would probably lose your sanity by spending so much time researching the primitive retarded logic used to conclude there these verses are scientific.

I'll show you the most stupid scientific verse claim I've seen and refute that, because it will show you that these people who come up with these scientific verses make them out of ANY VERSE.

Yes, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. (Qur'an, 75:4)

This verse you can find on the miracle of the quran website so I'm not just making this up.


This verse shows that the quran predicted the importance of fingerprints how they're unique.  The verse doesn't actually say the word fingerprints, it doesn't say they are unique.  If it did that wouldn't matter anyway, some civilizations before the quran did place some importance on fingerprints and their uniqueness.  Tongue prints are also unique but obviously they aren't used for practical reasons in standard police work to identify people with.

The verse in full context is just talking about how god will put people's bodies back together to bring them back to live, it asks does man not think that we can reproduce his bones?  We can even reproduce the tips of his fingers.  So definitely not saying that all fingerprints are unique.

You can make your own scientific verses up as Muslims on this forum sometimes do.  If the quran uses a word and that same word is used in something remotely scientific then it's a miracle.  If it says fingertips then it's predicting fingerprint identification technology.  
We have one on this forum now where the quran mentions fluid therefore it's predicting the fluidity of the universe.

With the big bang prediction the people who claim this is a scientific verse need to specifically identify what the words mean.  If heaven means universe then the Earth hasn't been separated from the universe, we're inside it.  The quran says the heavens and the earth are separated, cleaved apart, torn asunder.  I don't think the earth has ever been cleaved apart from the universe.

And you answered the earth being round miracle yourself, it doesn't mention that in the quran.  I've heard it says in the quran the earth was rolled out, evened out, made egg shaped with no reference to which egg.  This covers a lot of shapes and isn't specific enough to be a miracle.