RE: Can anyone please refute these verses of Quran (or at least their interpretations)?
April 20, 2016 at 10:12 am
(April 17, 2016 at 6:37 am)RozKek Wrote: Welcome. I will quote you one of my earlier posts which adresses this issue. I will just cut out the irrelevant parts
RozKek Wrote:AHH THE GOOD OLD SCIENTIFIC SHIT IN THE QUR'AN. When the science is "against" them they deny it! And when the science is "with" them they accept it!
Like the one where the Qur'an says that iron came from outer space. "How could Mahmoud possibly know that a stunning 1400 years ago before modern science?" Well he fucking didn't. It was knowledge taken from the ancient Egyptians, they knew about it around 5000 years ago because they harvested iron from meteorites. And I'm pretty sure you can see meteoroids (meteorites before impact) falling from outer space/the sky. So there goes one scientific "miracle" to hell. Also note that it wasn't God's words. It was ancient Egyptians knawwledge implemented into the Qur'an.
[source: http://www.nature.com/news/iron-in-egypt...ce-1.13091]
"But, what about when the Qur'an mentions the BIG BANG!?" Actually the Qur'an wasn't first. The Sumerians were, it was a sumerian creation story (didn't represent the Big Bang fyi, just misinterpreted). So the people who wrote the Qur'an thought this made sense and implemented it into the Qur'an.
[source: http://nautil.us/issue/17/big-bangs/the-...tion-story]
"Hold on, the Qur'an says that the our Earth is spherical, explain that!" Yeah, thanks to Pythagoras around 500 B.C. an ancient greek mathematician and philosophor had the brains to calculate it/know it, so, yeah. It was possible before modern science. Here again the writers of the Qur'an took knowledge from others and implemented it. Scientific "miracle"? Nope.
[source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras] (CTRL+F search: spherical)
And don't even mention the embryo. It was also taken from the ancient greeks. They had theories on it, Aristotle studied it and even gave accurate description to the embryo development of a hound shark.
[source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle] (CTRL+F search: embryo)
What about when the Qur'an mentions that the moon doesn't shine, but reflects the sunlight? How could Mahmodi have known that? Yet again, taken from the ancient greeks.
Anaxagoras knew that the moon reflected didn't shine and reflected light around 500 B.C
[source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaxagoras] (CTRL+F search: moon)
And before you ask how could Muhammed have had access to all this knowledge. Well if you didn't skip school, or at least made your research then you would have known around the times the Qur'an was written or modified, the arabic empire was huge. It stretched out very far, and they were great at trading since they made their own silver coins, which became more and more common. They had many universities filled with ancient greek knowledge, they had even learnt a lot from the Indians, including mathematics, medicine etc. And all the knowledge they've taken has been in their reach: Mesopotamia, ancient Greece, Sumer etc. Coincidence?
Also I advise you to search for something that you're skeptical about with debunked at the end. E.g "Scientific miracles debunked"
Keep in mind the last paragraph wasn't directed towards you.
Best regards,
On the spherical earth bit, also google Eratosthenes, who managed to measure the length of the equator to within 2% in BCE times, if our modern guess for the length of a Greek stade is correct.
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