Sex with a bigot?

[paulpablo]

I'd advocate to exclude pedophiles from jobs involving children just on the basis of them belonging to that group. I mean just on that basis with no prior convictions or incidents.

I think this is the problem with the definition is if that is the definition it makes most people bigots. It's not even clear what you're excluding the group from, from being in the country, from getting a certain job, having sex with you, coming into your home, riding certain riders in a theme park? these are all forms of exclusions.
And does the group have to be based on inherent racial or gender characteristics or fluid characteristics like being loud or drunk?

Good point. I should further clarify that the group they are a part of is not directly relevant to the point you are making.

And, to me, it doesn't extend to your personal life. Who you allow into your home, who you talk to, who you have sex with etc. is entirely your business. Some things you don't need a reason for. But denying someone something from your personal life is much different to actively interfering in someone else's life, refusing to provide a service to someone because of your personal feelings about them, or lobbying for them to be generally less well treated by society.

With regard to excluding pedophiles from jobs involving children, I don't agree personally. But I wouldn't say it's irrelevant either, so I wouldn't call that bigotry so much as being overly cautious (in my opinion).

It's also (in my opinion) a harmful position to hold because:

1) It further makes sure no one will ever publically identify as a pedophile, making it harder for them to get help, by removing opportunities as well as all the mistreatment they will no doubt get. If instead they could identify and then receive support, they'd actually be much safer working with children, when they could have got away with not mentioning it in the first place.

2) It isn't of any practical use, because you're never going to know. So in fact you'd just be discriminating against incredibly honest pedophiles; or else subjecting "suspicious" people to random interrogations.

Again, just my opinion on the matter.

My most important objection would be to the 2nd point, in that I would hope and incredibly honest pedophile would be honest enough to accept that working with children will be a bad idea for them.
And for first point I imagine from the perspective of a pedpphile its always going to be dangerous to reveal yourself, you're basically a lion programmed to kill young bison and you're surrounded by strong adult bison who want to beat the shit out of you whenever you go near their children. It will always be better to remain anonymous just for the sheer sexual opportunities you might get and the amount of potential beatings you will avoid.