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$10 to have women, $20 may change too......
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RE: $10 to have women, $20 may change too......
(April 23, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: It is flat out wrong for the Michele Bachmann to say the founders ended slavery, the Civil War did. What is dishonest about what she did, wasn't that she was totally wrong in making that claim, but when Republicans get called out on bigotry, they try to give the image of the party being pluralistic by pulling this bullshit.

Now the truth of slavery in the North, not with all the founders, but a few of them DID in private see the problem with it but publicly tolerated it for political expediences. Slavery was mostly gone in the North by the time Jefferson died and even he freed Sally and Her kids along with Whipple.

Real Abolition beyond mere deportation DID exist, in a very small degree, and because of the way the Founders Wrote the Constitution, I do think they knew eventually in the future that blacks would in turn use it to fight for their own rights.

But yea, even with no slavery mostly in the North yes, bigotry still existed and life for blacks certainly was miserable in both the North and South, but there were real progressives even at the time of the Revolution, but even those few wouldn't have been able to go all out all at once with that platform.
The Revolutionary War was fought to maintain slavery in the colonies.  England was on the verge of ending slavery in England and in its colonies.  The rich slavers such as Washington and Jefferson wanted to retain slavery so they joined with the Northern malcontents to rebel against England.  They were successful and sold the lie that they were fighting for freedom and democracy.  But the English were also successful.  They spent a fortune ending the transatlantic slave trade.  in the mid 19th Century the Southerners wanted to expand slavery and import more slaves.  The Northerners wanted to deport all of the black people and didn't want any more in the country.  So there was a second war over slavery.   

But regardless, the CSA did in fact put black people and women on its currency while the USA resisted it for 155 years after the CSA had done it for purely propaganda reasons.  The USA didn't want to do it for any reason.
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$10 to have women, $20 may change too...... - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: $10 to have women, $20 may change too...... - by Wyrd of Gawd - April 23, 2016 at 4:53 pm

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