(May 12, 2016 at 11:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Jesus christ Benny, did you read what you wrote up above...and do you still think that you aren't disputing things like evolution, or the mechanisms thereof? Yes, evolution has occurred, but since evolution has nothing to do with your "one object evolving into another" your comments on the subject are uninformative. That's some crocoduck shit...and you know better.lol did YOU read it?
Evolution isn't a thing or even a process which acts on things. It doesn't EXIST as such. And yet it is the formative principle by which a collecion of like animals slowly change in nature over time. I'm arguing that while it doesn't exist physically, it is still very real as a physical idea-- it is the inevitable result of the interactions of chaotic systems with persistent patterns over time.
Quote:(I'll stop saying stolen concepts when you cease to engage in incoherent arguments by means of stolen concepts, btw, lol. If you accept the materialists explanations for things..then allow yourself to accept them.... rather than disputing them with the next breath or claiming that they are in fact support of the immaterial. If you don;t accept them, and feel that some immaterial explanation is better, then stop claiming to accept them - or pointing to the truth of what you do not accept as true...in support of what you do.)Have I argued that ideas are immaterial? No. Have I said that evolution isn't real? No.
I'm trying to dig deep here, and understand the relation between chaos and order, and what this means for things like evolution. You are fixating on semantics, and on keeping your world view in a tidy little box. If we are going to continue, you'll have to demonstrate that you have grokked how I've defined the word "idea" in this thread.
