RE: Can you persuade me from Agnostic to Atheist?
May 20, 2016 at 12:28 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2016 at 12:30 am by wiploc.)
(May 19, 2016 at 2:14 pm)AgnosticMan123 Wrote:(May 19, 2016 at 2:03 pm)The_Empress Wrote: They're not mutually exclusive terms. I am an agnostic atheist.
A/gnosticism has to do with knowledge; A/theism has to do with belief.
By agnostic I meant I am neither a believer nor disbeliever that there is a God. To me maybe there is a God and maybe there isn't.
Can you persuade me that there isn't a God?
"Disbelieve" may not mean what you think it does.
Here are the first two definitions at dictionary.comm:
Quote:1. to have no belief in; refuse or reject belief in:
2. to refuse or reject belief; have no belief.
If we look in enough dictionaries, or even look at more definitions at dictionary.comm, we may find some that say to disbelieve X is to believe the opposite of X. So it's not like you're necessarily wrong.
But it's still an awkward word to use when it matters whether you mean "not believe X" or "believe not-X." Saying that you neither a believer nor a disbeliever in gods will confuse a lot of people. It will seem a logical impossibility.
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Do you want us to pick the gods, or do you have a specific god in mind? It should be easy to persuade you to believe there is no such thing as a god who can do anything but who can't defeat iron chariots. So, if I'm picking, I pick that one, and my job here is done.
But, if you want to pick the god, then you need to describe it so that we can decide whether we think it exists. marshal our arguments.
