(May 22, 2016 at 4:01 pm)Janice_Spokes Wrote: OK people, this is getting out of control.
I feel very passionately about this issue, and because I was so strong in my beliefs I helped contribute to this tense atmosphere.
Im really sorry and hope to get "back on the wagon" with you all.
It is considered cruel to refer to disabled persons as "retarded", just as it is no longer acceptable to refer to black people as "niggers". Welcome to the 21st century.
If you would like to get "back on the wagon", try addressing the arguments we're actually making instead of making up stuff that we don't say or think. If you come to a forum populated by rationalists, it does not help your cause to make emotionally-charged arguments and to ignore what others are actually saying to you.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
