I keep getting messages (which ping my phone to let me know I have a message), and have been having to reply to queries in several formats, so I'll come say this here to get it all out of the way.
I don't give a rat's ass (am I allowed to say that?) about the behavior of a troll. By the way, I don't think this is a troll; I've lived in Oklahoma, and this is really how most (white) people there think and speak.
What I do care about is the heavy-handed behavior of moderators on this board, a pattern I have noticed and been chafing at for some time.
Whether or not the post was directed at me (and I don't see how it could have been otherwise, since I too was arguing with this person who was so willing to slander us), we have a sudden and almost random "application of the rules", after this person has already started up several aggressive and libelous threads, only to start up another one in the introductions section that immediately sets about trying to flame us... and NOW it's off-limits to respond in (as Thump kindly called it), a "detailed and civil reply", just because this time she happened to pick the Introductions section for her, what, fifth thread?
Well, I don't use the sections; I use the "New Posts" button, which makes it hard to notice what sub-forum it's in when I open a new topic. The last thing I want to do with my time is worry about whether this particular thread I open up is going to draw a moderator's censorship, especially when the only thing I ever see anymore is long-time atheist members getting called out/constrained, and these vile bigots just left to run essentially rampant. That is why I said "enjoy your Christians".
For most of the previous year, I was spread too thin with my small amount of "spare" time, trying to keep up with the posts on AF and TTA at the same time, so I chose between them. I chose AF because of its smaller membership numbers; I figured it would hurt TTA less to lose the active participation of a member than it would, here. I have been questioning that decision, as I watched the pattern develop, and have instead decided to return to TTA. I like and/or respect a great many of you. So if any of you are members of TTA, or wish to post there, I will be glad to keep talking to you all.
If-and-when AF decides to get a new crop of less-heavy-handed moderators, and issues an apology for the constant Big Brother oversight that has been the case in the last couple of months, I will return. If this cannot be, then I wish you all the best.
- Rob (aka Rocket)
I don't give a rat's ass (am I allowed to say that?) about the behavior of a troll. By the way, I don't think this is a troll; I've lived in Oklahoma, and this is really how most (white) people there think and speak.
What I do care about is the heavy-handed behavior of moderators on this board, a pattern I have noticed and been chafing at for some time.
Whether or not the post was directed at me (and I don't see how it could have been otherwise, since I too was arguing with this person who was so willing to slander us), we have a sudden and almost random "application of the rules", after this person has already started up several aggressive and libelous threads, only to start up another one in the introductions section that immediately sets about trying to flame us... and NOW it's off-limits to respond in (as Thump kindly called it), a "detailed and civil reply", just because this time she happened to pick the Introductions section for her, what, fifth thread?
Well, I don't use the sections; I use the "New Posts" button, which makes it hard to notice what sub-forum it's in when I open a new topic. The last thing I want to do with my time is worry about whether this particular thread I open up is going to draw a moderator's censorship, especially when the only thing I ever see anymore is long-time atheist members getting called out/constrained, and these vile bigots just left to run essentially rampant. That is why I said "enjoy your Christians".
For most of the previous year, I was spread too thin with my small amount of "spare" time, trying to keep up with the posts on AF and TTA at the same time, so I chose between them. I chose AF because of its smaller membership numbers; I figured it would hurt TTA less to lose the active participation of a member than it would, here. I have been questioning that decision, as I watched the pattern develop, and have instead decided to return to TTA. I like and/or respect a great many of you. So if any of you are members of TTA, or wish to post there, I will be glad to keep talking to you all.
If-and-when AF decides to get a new crop of less-heavy-handed moderators, and issues an apology for the constant Big Brother oversight that has been the case in the last couple of months, I will return. If this cannot be, then I wish you all the best.
- Rob (aka Rocket)
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
