Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

[Alex K]

Alex, Isaac Newton was a devout Christian but he also did experiments using the scientific method which have helped mankind move forward.

That's a completely irrelevant point. He was mostly smart enough the separate his science from his theology. His laws of mechanics have nothing to do with Jesus.
The clowns you cite, on the other hand, are trying to justify their theology using experiments.

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In regards to this meditation energy Valerie Hunt has performed some experiments to confirm that such an energy field exists.

This is an interesting article that talks about this matter:

In his well-known book The Holographic Universe (1991, Harper Collins, publisher), Michael Talbot discusses the work of Valerie Hunt on energy fields. He writes:

"Over the past twenty years Valerie Hunt, a physical therapist and professor of kinesiology at UCLA, has developed a way to confirm experimentally the
existence of the human energy field. Medical science has long known that humans are electromagnetic beings. Doctors routinely use
electrocardiographs to make electrocardiograms (EKGs), records of the electrical activity of the heart, and electroencephalographs to make
electroencelophalograms (EEGs) of the human brain's electrical activity. Hunt discovered that an electromyograph, a device used to
measure the electrical activity in the muscles, can also pick up the electrical presence of the human energy field."

From this, Hunt came up with the idea to make electromyograms (EMGs) of people's energy fields. Hunt confirmed the existence of the energy fields with this apparatus.


This ties in with what is said in Zhuan Falun: "A qigong master has gong, I have participated in an experiment, and many other qigong masters have also undergone this experiment to
measure their energy. The material elements in gong can be detected by many present-day apparatus." (Lecture Two) Perhaps EMGs are one of the devices used in our present day scientific and technological community that can measure the material elements in gong.

Talbot goes on to describe more of Hunt's findings with respect to energy frequencies found among different people. One example supports the hypothesis that thinking primarily about topics from the mundane world specifically lowers one's energy. He writes:


"One of Hunt's most startling findings is that certain talents and abilities seem to be related to the presence of specific frequencies in a person's energy field. She has found that when the main focus of a person's consciousness is on the material world, the frequencies of their energy field tend to be in the lower range and are not too far removed from the 250 cps [-cycles per second] of the body's biological frequencies. In addition to these, people who are psychic or who have healing abilities also have frequencies of roughly 400 to 800 cps in their field."


Thus in cultivation we are asked to not be too attached to things in the changing temporary world such as pay raises, xinxing frictions, and
so on, because it occupies us with the mundane world and has a literal and demonstrable adverse affect on the level of our energy and our
energy level. In this way, mind intent and topics of thought are shown to be intrinsically linked to one's energy and thus one's level. People
with lower level supernormal abilities are said here to have frequencies between 400-800 cps. However, higher level folks have an
even higher frequency, as Talbot relates:


"People who have frequencies above 900 cps are what Hunt calls mystical personalities."


"Using a modified electromyogram (an electromyogram can normally only detect frequencies up to 20,000 cps), Hunt has encountered individuals who have frequencies as high as 200,000 cps in their energy fields."

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Of course no-one doubts that animals are surrounded by changing electric fields and emit weak electromagnetic waves due to their nervous and muscle activity.
What you have to demonstrate is that they have any nontrivial connection to or function in your meditation stuff and your claims about the soul etc. The failure to make this distinction clearly is damning, but unsurprising - this kind of quack "research" only survives by muddying the waters. Holding a measurement device to a person, reading off a field and then yelling "That proves it, my magic is real" is charlatanery riding on the coattails of legitimate science. It's people who want to believe, and who already know what they want to believe, doing a mock scientific procedure until they find something that, with enough wishful thinking, can be interpreted to support their predetermined conclusion, at which point they drop the equipment and take it as a given that their religion has been proven. That's not what a real scientist does. Real scientists try to refute themselves by all means they can think of, do blind tests and take elaborate statistical precautions, work hard to formulate precise questions and test criteria, and to exclude all alternative explanations based on known physics and biology. When they still find something surprising and unexplained, they tentatively publish it to encourage others to replicate.

This is very damaging to the reputation of the People's Republic as well - there is a reason why studies form China are almost automatically assumed to be crap by many researchers unless it is a really internationally well-known person conducting the research.