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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)
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RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)
(May 23, 2016 at 6:39 am)Alex K Wrote: That's a completely irrelevant point. He was mostly smart enough the separate his science from his theology. His laws of mechanics have nothing to do with Jesus.
The clowns you cite, on the other hand, are trying to justify their theology using experiments.

Actually Isaac Newton said:

“We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.”

He also said:

"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition."



(May 23, 2016 at 6:39 am)Alex K Wrote: Of course no-one doubts that animals are surrounded by changing electric fields and emit weak electromagnetic waves due to their nervous and muscle activity.
What you have to demonstrate is that they have any nontrivial connection to or function in your meditation stuff and your claims about the soul etc. The failure to make this distinction clearly is damning, but unsurprising - this kind of quack "research" only survives by muddying the waters. Holding a measurement device to a person, reading off a field and then yelling "That proves it, my magic is real" is charlatanery riding on the coattails of legitimate science. It's people who want to believe, and who already know what they want to believe, doing a mock scientific procedure until they find something that, with enough wishful thinking, can be interpreted to support their predetermined conclusion, at which point they drop the equipment and take it as a given that their religion has been proven. That's not what a real scientist does. Real scientists try to refute themselves by all means they can think of, do blind tests and take elaborate statistical precautions, work hard to formulate precise questions and test criteria, and to exclude all alternative explanations based on known physics and biology. When they still find something surprising and unexplained, they tentatively publish it to encourage others to replicate.

This is very damaging to the reputation of the People's Republic as well - there is a reason why studies form China are almost automatically assumed to be crap by many researchers unless it is a really internationally well-known person conducting the research.

Alex, here is a large scale Falun Dafa survey done on tens of thousands of people who practice this Qi Gong system. They have found that this practice healed people dramatically from all sorts of ailments across the board:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/6628

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2005/4/3/59184.html
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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:11 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:25 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 5:32 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:38 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:41 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Aoi Magi - May 23, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 6:19 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Aoi Magi - May 23, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 6:39 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by GUBU - May 25, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 6:58 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 8:17 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by GUBU - May 25, 2016 at 8:43 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 8:37 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Cato - May 23, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 23, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 23, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 24, 2016 at 2:16 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 24, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 24, 2016 at 7:19 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 25, 2016 at 6:25 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by GUBU - May 25, 2016 at 9:06 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 25, 2016 at 7:06 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 25, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 25, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by GUBU - May 25, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 25, 2016 at 8:32 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 27, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 28, 2016 at 5:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by GUBU - May 28, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 28, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 8:09 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 29, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 29, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 29, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 8:04 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by drfuzzy - May 29, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 31, 2016 at 7:22 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 31, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 31, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 31, 2016 at 12:50 pm

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