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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)
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RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)
Quote:Those are just random quotes of someone professing their religious belief. Do you think that any of them contradict what I said above?



Well I think the quotes show that his scientific pursuits were strongly influenced by his spiritual beliefs. I think however that having a strong spiritual belief does not mean one cannot do true scientific work. The first scientific experiment I had linked to (http://www.pureinsight.org/node/189)  was done by a Falun Dafa practitioner but it was done under strict scientific conditions, is that not still science?

In regards to meditation energy there is a short excerpt from Zhuan Falun on this matter:

"Under the effect of a special electromagnetic field qigong masters can have strong luminescence, and it’s really beautiful. The higher a person’s potency, the larger the energy field he projects. Ordinary people have one too, but it’s a really weak kind of luminescence. People who do research in high-energy physics think of energy as being things like neutrons and atoms. A lot of qigong masters have been tested. And all the qigong masters who are pretty well-known have been tested, in fact. I’ve been tested, too, and they found that I emit gamma rays and thermal neutrons 80–170 times greater than the radiation of normal matter. At that point the needle of the testing instrument had hit the limit, and since the needle had hit the maximum point they couldn’t tell exactly how strong it was. Imagine, neutrons that strong—it’s just incredible! How could a person emit neutrons that strong? This proves that we qigong masters do have gong, it proves we do have energy. It’s been verified by the scientific and technological community."



Quote:A list of anecdotes, reported and selected by believers and written down, are not reliable science. Again, this is not how "clinical" or epidemiological studies must be conducted in order to be reliable. There is a whole list of statistical biases and confounding factors that have to be tightly controlled, there need to be control groups, etc. This kind of result is meaningless.

If thousands of people truly feel tangible benefits from this practice both physcially and mentally surely there must be something to it.

Here is another scientific test performed on Dafa practitioners:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/2573
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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:11 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:25 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 5:32 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 5:38 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:41 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Aoi Magi - May 23, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 6:19 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Aoi Magi - May 23, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 6:39 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 6:58 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 8:17 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 8:37 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 23, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 23, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Cato - May 23, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 23, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 23, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 23, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 24, 2016 at 2:16 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 24, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 24, 2016 at 7:19 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 25, 2016 at 6:25 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 25, 2016 at 7:06 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 25, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 25, 2016 at 8:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 25, 2016 at 8:32 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 27, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 28, 2016 at 5:13 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 28, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 8:09 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Alex K - May 28, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 28, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 28, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 29, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by brewer - May 29, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 29, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 8:04 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 29, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by drfuzzy - May 29, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by EnergyGem - May 31, 2016 at 7:22 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by LastPoet - May 31, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by ignoramus - May 31, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel) - by Angrboda - May 31, 2016 at 12:50 pm

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