RE: Self-Validating Empirical Epistemology?
May 23, 2016 at 7:34 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2016 at 7:50 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 22, 2016 at 3:54 pm)Ignorant Wrote: If I believe you, then I have the knowledge that the object exists in such a way that a human being can hold it up, that you can hold it up, and that you are holding it up. If I don't believe you, then I have no knowledge of it at all.I didn't ask you about your beliefs. I asked about your knowledge. You have no knowledge of the object I was holding, regardless.
Quote:Whatever I hold up, I would know that it exists, that I can hold it, that I am holding it, and any other sensory information it may offer according to whatever it may be.You have knowledge of object you were holding.
Quote:This comparison seems is a peculiar sort of evidence. What does it mean to empirically compare a non-empirical case to an empirical case? Which cases are we talking about?Don't be obtuse. An empirical case would be a case where sense data is available. A non-empirical case would be one where it is not. Predictably, in our empirical experiment..you had no knowledge of the object for which you did not possess sense data. You had knowledge of the object for which you did. Care to run that experiment a few dozen times, a few thousand, a few million? This is precisely the sort of validation described in the first response to your question..where we consider empirical and non-empirical case claims against reality. It is breath-takingly simple to do so, and similarly easy to understand.
In the case above, had you layed claim to any knowledge of the object I was holding (rather than, say,.,knowledge of human beings - which I'm willing to bet you might have seen once or twice in your life, btw) you'd have quickly been shown to be bullshitting us..or, perhaps, the luckiest guesser in the history of guessing.
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