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Women earn less than Men
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RE: Women earn less than Men
(May 25, 2016 at 3:41 am)Irrational Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 12:49 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Not to sound like pool, but an earnings gap and a wage gap are not the same thing. Yes, discrimination occurs, and yes some people get away with it, but I have yet to see any convincing evidence that sexual wage discrimination is still a systemic problem in Western society, or that it is a major contributor to the earnings gap.

It's a matter of coming up with the most plausible explanation for the unaccounted difference in wage/earnings between both genders. The evidence is that there is, controlling for most other factors that have been considered to contribute to gender differences in this context, still a difference.


Even if that's the case, what you're describing is an earnings gap, not a wage gap. If there were a wage gap, then we would be able to look at the actual, by-the-hour wages and very directly see a disparity between what men make and what women make. Instead, you have people looking at earnings for various periods of time, accounting for as many non-discrimination-related factors as they can, then naming discrimination as the "most plausible" cause for the gap they can't explain. To me, that seems to be an argument from ignorance, once it all shakes out.


Besides, if men and women's wages are the same for the same jobs, but women's average earnings are less, and the reason for that is discrimination, that means the men are paying the women the same wage and then finding some sneaky way to somehow make sure they still don't make as much money in the long run. That is some conspiracy-theory-level illogic right there, not to mention the "how would that even work?" part.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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Women earn less than Men - by drfuzzy - May 23, 2016 at 12:46 pm
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RE: Women earn less than Men - by drfuzzy - May 23, 2016 at 1:05 pm
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RE: Women earn less than Men - by Brian37 - May 23, 2016 at 7:29 pm
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RE: Women earn less than Men - by drfuzzy - May 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: Women earn less than Men - by ErGingerbreadMandude - May 23, 2016 at 9:37 pm
RE: Women earn less than Men - by drfuzzy - May 24, 2016 at 1:02 am
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RE: Women earn less than Men - by drfuzzy - May 24, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Women earn less than Men - by Redbeard The Pink - May 24, 2016 at 3:31 pm
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