RE: Women earn less than Men
May 27, 2016 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2016 at 9:31 am by GrandizerII.)
(May 27, 2016 at 8:03 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(May 27, 2016 at 7:35 am)Irrational Wrote: 6% is not a small amount, especially in reference to millions of dollars a year. Let's not minimize the impact this has on how much women fail to gain in a period of time compared to men because of this unexplained combination of factors (one of which is plausibly discrimination).
That said, still not sure how this wave vs. earnings distinction actually debunks the earnings gap partly due to discrimination again?
In regards to your last paragraph, that's if the woman was aware how much others are getting paid. If I'm not mistaken, some jobs don't like to have their pay information made public to all employees.
Ok, and that 6% is the unexplained part, and it is shared with several other possible speculative answers. The speculated impact of discrimination is only a fraction of that 6%. Let's not blow it out of proportion, either.
What I'm arguing against is a systemic wage gap, which is what people are usually touting when they talk about the "pay gap" even though they throw around numbers for the earnings gap. That "77 cents on the dollar" bullshit you always hear is the earnings gap, not the wage gap. There is no evidence for a "wage gap." It is a speculative solution to a problem involving an unexplained 6% disparity in the earnings of men and women, and even though some discrimination likely does occur on a small scale, it probably only accounts for a small portion (perhaps not even a statistically significant one) of that 6%, mostly owing to the fact that discrimination is illegal and against the zeitgeist. Some discrimination is bound to slip through the cracks (as with all crimes), but aside from making it illegal, prosecuting people who do it, and teaching little boys and girls not to be mean just because of their parts, I really don't know what you expect anyone to do about it.
Expect? Let's be psychologically ready to acknowledge the problem exists first. Then we can talk about solutions.