Women earn less than Men

[Redbeard The Pink]

I'm psychologically ready, dude. Now all I need to see is some evidence. We also have to establish what the problem actually is before we start talking about solutions, not what it might be.


Oh, a thing I forgot to mention earlier...I don't know what it's like in Australia, but because of union laws in America it is illegal for an employer to discipline you in any way for talking about how much you get paid, and the reason for that is so the workers can compare notes among themselves to make sure everyone is being paid fairly. Most employers want you to think you can get in trouble, and I'm sure there are instances of retaliation where the victim never gets justice, but it is absolutely ok on a general basis to talk to your co-workers about how much you get paid. It might not always be considered tasteful, but it is a protected activity nonetheless.


Here's the thing: the solution to systemic wage discrimination was to make it illegal and start punishing people for doing it. If systemic, sexual pay discrimination were still a thing, then that would be the primary factor in the pay disparity, and everyone would know it, and the authorities would not care. Instead, we see that discrimination is maybe a difficult-to-pinpoint fraction of an unexplained percentile of a difference in earnings between the sexes, which is exactly what we would expect to see if it were the seedy, illegal, frowned-upon act that it is.


There's also a thing you're not being clear about: you keep mentioning "subconscious discrimination," but if that "subconscious discrimination" is not causing people to pay women lower wages than men for doing the same work for the same length of time (which generally doesn't seem to be what's happening), then by what mechanism exactly is it detracting from women's pay?