(May 28, 2016 at 11:57 am)[email protected] Wrote:(May 28, 2016 at 11:29 am)Brian37 Wrote: This is what I think all god claims are........ " .......................... " What? Didn't see anything? Neither do we. Get a clue bud.
You are not the only religion to pull these tactics. Every major religion, when they cant flat out debunk science, will resort to trying to co opt science. The problem for Christians and Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus, and all others, is that scientific method is not a religion itself, it is a tool, a neutral process. It does not prop up the bible, or Quran or Jewish OT or the Hindu Baghavad Gitas or Vedas, or Buddha. Scientific method is completely religion independent.
I am not here to convince anyone of anything. I want my beliefs to be criticized. Tell me what is illogical about thinking this way. I have yet to find anything convincing so far.
Oh bullshit. This is the intellectual dishonesty religion teaches you. Then why the fuck are you even posting anything? As soon as you post a claim, you are making a sales pitch.
Great you don't mind your claims getting picked on? Good, then let me cut to the chase, and save you some time.
Humans make up all god claims and all religions. There is nothing special about any religion or god claims. They are ALL products of human's imaginations.
There were no religions 200,000 years ago, much less 4 billion years ago, much less 13.8 billion years ago. Our sun is only 1 of billions in our galaxy, a galaxy so big it takes one ray of light 100,000 years at the speed of light to cross. And our galaxy is only 1 of about 200 BILLION galaxies in our observable universe.
So when any Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist or Rasta or Jew says "I am special because of my religion" or "my deity did it" what do you want me to say? There is simply is no polite way to say religion is an artificial gap filling placebo humans make up to avoid facing our finite existence.
Clear enough for you? Bunt yes, offends many? Sure. But facing that reality is how humans can find REAL answers. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.
