(May 29, 2016 at 7:31 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(May 29, 2016 at 6:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Just pray to Allah to remove our moderation powers. I'm sure he could do that, right?
Excuse the savagery of my Muslim brethren.
You can imagine what I go through daily now; self righteous is all I can say..Yes; I have no right to blow up in his face, but the way the information is presented is just irritating; yes I can't deny that.
And instead of respecting the rules of others, one would ride the self-righteous high horse and keep clashing with the rest of humanity. That's why wars in the middle east never go silent; cannons never cease, Sunna would invade Shia mosques and shia would invade sunna mosques just like this, so irritating and so...savage.
But no problem.
Oh for Mecca's sake you are soooooo close. Atlas I'm sorry, I have tones of empathy or the fact you want the East to climb out of it's Islamic dark ages. But a label does not make others who share it your "brethren".
I seriously don't even like that when atheists pull that crap either. If you value non violence and you value western pluralism and modern civility, that empathy isn't coming from the Quran, your empathy for your fellow humans is in your genes.
Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and even atheist, do not automatically determine if a human will only do good. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate are in our evolution, not our labels.
Even on a family blood genetic level outside the issue of religion, I don't blindly support my own family members on every issue all the time. I love my adoptive mom, but even she knows what I think of the claim that a magic cracker if she eats it will save her from hell. And while I love my biological family who originally gave me up for adoption, I have cut off my older brother, not because I hate him, but because he was abusive to me and threatened me one too many times. I don't wish him ill but I cannot have that baggage in my life, I have enough of my own problems to deal with.
Seriously Atlas, I cant see the logic of clinging to such an old book, especially when you live under threat of others who read that same book to come to very different conclusions. To me, it would be like having more than one kid and allowing them to fight over a bicycle assembly manual to the point of death? Hardly efficient if your goal as an all powerful being is to get everyone on the same page.
Now Atlas, you've been here long enough to know at least with me, I make the same arguments I do here with Christians and Jews. It is a sick idea to me, to claim this god is all powerful and wants everyone on the same page but needs mere humans to fight his battles for him. Seems to me a malicious thing to do, selfish and at best neglectful, but the better argument is that he never existed and humans are all we have.
