(June 1, 2016 at 10:02 pm)Light of Truth Wrote: I'm not saying one must believe in God to be moral; I'm merely saying that without God there can be no basis for objective morality. All that is possible apart from God would be subjective morality and nihilism.
And what is this "objective morality" supposed to be? And if there is a god - how come we don't see that "objective morality" anywhere? Only a great number of different "subjective moralities", each claiming to be the "objective" one.
Christian - or any other religious - morality is in no way "objective". It's just a set of rules, that is convenient, for the particular community at the moment - which is why it keeps changing and why religions keep splitting and fighting each other over it.
The whole talk of "objective morality" smells like bullsh*t to me. It's like saying - "Without god, there can be no magical flying unicorns, pooping candy and farting rainbows..." Yeah, well - tough, I guess we're going to have to make the candy ourselves - just like we always have done...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw