(June 4, 2016 at 7:25 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 4, 2016 at 6:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sorry, Lek, but God bears a good deal more responsibility for things than just allowing them. If God is omnipotent and creative, then God created the decisions made by human beings (check of statement: If there is anything that happens without God's having created it, then God is not omnipotent). It isn't as if God just stands idly by and lets 14 years old Susan be raped, tortured and killed - God created rapists, torturers, killers, and the desires and decisions to rape, torture and kill. God, in effect, is ultimately responsible for every act of evil that has ever occurred, both moral and natural (if you like, I'll be delighted to point out why free will cannot exist in the context of an all-powerful God, but that's not immediately germane).No. God created beings who could make evil decisions, but he gave us the opportunity to make our own decisions. Knowing what decisions we will make is not the same as actually making the decisions. I will agree that God could stop evil from happening, but then he would be going against the decision he made to give us free will. We would be nothing but puppets and you wouldn't have the choice to reject him either. We do the evil acts, but if you want to believe that God is responsible for it all then go ahead.
You might want to look up the Parable Of The Insane Dog Breeder. It's a quick read and explains the ultimate paucity of Christian morality as pertains to moral evil.
Boru
But how is it that modern man.. i dunno is more moral than god and even kinder and not to mention fixing our own problems
that is causing suffering. Modern medicine fixed the problem of suffering with sickness. The problem of hunger still a issue and were doing what we can.
If you were to believe the bible were true.. god himself is a megalomaniac sociopath and murderer. With the option love god and jesus or burn in hell
here is the kicker i love neither. The funny thing is the bible paints satan out to be a better judge of character than the supposed all loving god himself.
But i digress.... the OT speaks for itself. You know and i know god of the bible is unchanging but get this god in the OT isn't all.. then in the NT why
did he change at all seems contradictory dont you think?
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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