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Muhammad Ali dead
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead
(June 9, 2016 at 9:23 am)paulpablo Wrote: I simply said that Muhammad Ali supported the kkk ideals of racial separation while he was under the influence of the Nation of Islam.

You obviously missed my point, that for a black man in 1960s America, the justification for racial separation was mistreatment at the hands of whites, while for the KKK, the justification was hatred of blacks. There is not a moral equivalence at play here, no matter your insinuations.

I'm not for a moment saying that either side is right; I think racial integration is important and to be sought. What I am saying is that I can understand how a black person in the America of the 60s could sincerely want to be away from white folk.

(June 9, 2016 at 9:23 am)paulpablo Wrote: There's sources out there that quote Muhammad's father giving his critical opinion of the Nation of Islam and what they did to his son. I'm on my phone so slightly more difficult for me to find copy and paste this stuff but if you're your interested they are easy to find.

No parent likes everything their children do. I form my own opinion of an individual, though. His father's opinion is his own. I'm no fan of the NoI at all -- I think they're twats. But there's a reason why they at one time were popular amongst American blacks, and it behooves us to understand why, so that we can ensure their marginality.

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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Minimalist - June 4, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Regina - June 7, 2016 at 10:17 pm
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 8, 2016 at 5:56 pm
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 8, 2016 at 6:44 pm
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Thumpalumpacus - June 9, 2016 at 2:57 am
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 9:23 am
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Thumpalumpacus - June 9, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 9:26 am
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 9, 2016 at 4:10 am
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Regina - June 9, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 9:39 am
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 11:25 am
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 11:35 am
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by Thumpalumpacus - June 9, 2016 at 2:03 pm
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by paulpablo - June 9, 2016 at 3:29 pm
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RE: Muhammad Ali dead - by abaris - June 9, 2016 at 4:31 pm
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