RE: No dark matter?
April 21, 2011 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 11:06 am by Wormhole199.)
(April 21, 2011 at 9:33 am)lilphil1989 Wrote:(April 21, 2011 at 7:00 am)Wormhole199 Wrote: But this is exactly how the Quran challenges non-believers to find the seven superimposed heavens, by detecting where light gets bent in places where it shouldn't. Learn more: Seven Heavens in QuranIt says nothing of the sort.
Really? Well that's because you never even visited the link I gave you: http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_...eavens.htm
Moslems say that this is how God challenges nonbelievers to detect the remaining six superimposed Heavens:
[Quran 67.3-4] [Allah] is the one who created seven superimposed Heavens "سبع سموات طباق". You do not see variations in the formations of the Compassionate, so redirect your sight, do you see any creation (Futtur in Arabic فطور)? Then redirect your sight again, your vision returns to you in defeat and regret.
Futtur in Arabic فطور means creation out of nothing (it does not mean "rip"). So the question in the Quran is "Do you see any creation out of nothing?". Your initial answer should be NO. But in the second verse, when you are supposed to redirect your sight your answer will change to YES, with defeat. Why should you redirect your sight when you observe Dark Matter? Why should you look to another direction and then back? Well the gravity of a massive object makes you see the background stars in another direction:
![[Image: gravitational_lensing_seven_heavens.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.speed-light.info%2Fspeed_of_light%2Fgravitational_lensing_seven_heavens.gif)
This is how we detect Dark Matter today, the background images are lensed at a certain angle. Since Dark Matter does not emit any light then we have to trace the light from the background galaxies. From the distances and the angle of lensing we estimate the mass of the Dark Matter. So when detecting the superimposed seven heavens you have to look away and then back in order to measure the angle. No angle no Dark Matter.
My favorite site: Speed of Light.