Make Atheism Great Again

[KevinM1]

Gay people pretty much have just about all the rights, aside from the right to make bakeries bake a cake for them. Still need a few more trans rights, but that's about it.

So, it's not worth discussing, then?  It's not worth highlighting religious-driven government overreach regarding trans people?

I've met plenty of atheists that were against abortion too. It's easy to let emotions sweep you away in that argument, if you've had a kid and you legit think that an early term fetus is a person. Personally I couldn't give a shit what happens to an early term fetus, prior to about 24 weeks.

The issue is broader than just abortion.  It's about how the religious perceives a woman and their worth, and what they're allowed to do with their own bodies.  The Hobby Lobby case, for example, should infuriate any atheist that is actually paying attention.

I've met many atheists that also think climate change isn't happening, that it's just a conspiracy to get more control over industry and more tax money, as well as for those with stock in green energy to make more money as well. I don't believe that garbage, but many atheists do.

There are conspiracy nutters in every group.  Why should they dictate what's talked about?  How do they fit into people in our legislature not believing it's happening due to their religious convictions?

Child abuse is really just a meme. They do it because their parents did it. It's learned behavior. Sometimes religion plays a role, sometimes it doesn't.

And yet, I would submit that religion exacerbates the problem.  Seriously, have you talked to some of the members here?  They have harrowing stories of the insidious kind of mental abuse only a cult can provide.  There's also the matter of the government doing jack shit to truly investigate the child molestation problem.

Yeah, there's a few cases where people rape their wives, and idiots like Rush Limbaugh says you can't rape your wife. You see a lot more of this in the Middle East than you do in America, though. A hell of a lot more.

And?  This shouldn't be talked about because it's not as bad here as in some shit hole?  

Umm... there are way more leftists that are anti-vaccine and anti-GMO than there are religious right twits. I know I have him in the meme I created, but Bill Maher is one of those douches.

Right now, nearly every state allows for vaccine exceptions for religious purposes: http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/scho...-laws.aspx  While you're likely right that it's the big pharma conspiracy nutters that tend to not vaccinate, as the non-religious personal belief/philosophy exceptions are removed, those people will undoubtedly begin claiming religious exception instead.  That, to me, deserves to be talked about.  Getting preemptive momentum against that trend is strategically sound.

It's not low hanging fruit when it's being taught to children. Doing so will cause them to grow up never wanting to learn about science, and that's a recipe for disaster in a modern society that depends on science.

You're not listening to me.  I'm not saying that fighting creationism isn't important.  Of course it is.  But there's not much to say that hasn't already been said - ID isn't science, it's religion.  Religion cannot be taught in schools.  Etc.  It's low hanging fruit because it's familiar, uncontroversial (unlike, say, feminism), and it's not a challenging concept (science good/religion bad).

We should be able to allow others to speak without shouting them down or simply dismissing them out of hand.  We're not theists.  And given how Christianity permeates both our general culture and politics, it seems to me there should be more than one topic to address.