Being a sinner just for being born

[mlmooney89]

Okay my picture didn't work but it says;

I am not evil,
I am not fallen,
I am not a sinner,
I am not an abomination.

I am simply a primate trying to do the least amount of damage and experience the most happiness on this rock until I am recycled back into the universe.

I find this wonderful and I feel like it goes along with this thread. Now to catch up for what I missed over the weekend.

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I think Robvalue pretty much carried much of my own side of the argument by saying what I was thinking as I read everything I missed. I thoroughly enjoyed Ignorant's side of the debate as well. Honestly Steve II the more you added the more I felt my original point driven home.
 
Despite Ignorant's well said arguments I can't help but feel the whole sin thing is just a mess and proof that this is all man made. And then this...

SteveII
You are still confusing inheriting a sin nature with what you are going to be punished for. 

To be more precise you have to understand the before and after. Before Adam's sin he was righteous and could stand before God (in his presence) "as-is" blameless, without fault, a perfect being, made in the image of God, higher than the angels. After sin, approaching God is no longer possible--he was tainted. The fall was significant because of how high his status was to start. Adam could not help but pass on that tainted state to his offspring. Therefore we inherit a sin nature--a state that requires some kind of repair if we are to get back to the original state.

This just makes everything so much worse. It says that I am right in that according to y'all we have no chance to just be good humans. We really do have to bow down to this 'loving' god and ask him to forgive us just for existing. I don't hate god but if I ever honestly thought he was real I would go out of my way not to be his follower. He isn't loving he is controlling.