RE: I need help with refutations for this
April 23, 2011 at 6:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2011 at 6:11 pm by MrJatt.)
here is what i said
"These mainly cover all three:
John Alsup: “The Post Resurrection Appearances of the Gospel Tradition.”
Edward L. Bode: The First Easter Morning.
C.H. Dode: “the Appearances of the Risen Christ: A Study in the Form Criticism of the Gospels.”
Craig A. Evans “Life-of-Jesus Research and the Eclipse of Mythology.”
Robert Gundry: “Soma in Biblical Theology.”
Whatever William Lane Craig has written on the issue.
Whatever N.T. Wright has written on the issue.
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And that practically all scholars agree on the three fact above, I guess the only way I can show you this is to use the information that I came to know this, namely, scholars in the field that mention that.
“Mark Allen Powell: "The dominant view is that the passion narratives are early and based on eyewitness testimony" (Journal of the American Academy of Religion 68 [2000]: 171).”
Paula Frederickson: "The disciples' conviction that they had seen the Risen Christ . . . [is] historical bedrock, facts known past doubting" (Jesus of Nazareth [New York: Vintage, 1999], 264).
Geza Vermes, "When every argument has been considered and weighed, the only conclusion acceptable to the historian must be that . . . the women who set out to pay their last respects to Jesus found to their consternation, not a body, but an empty tomb" (Jesus the Jew, p. 41).
Jacob Kremer: "By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb" (Die Osterevangelien--Geschichten um Geschichte (Stuttgart: Katholisches Bibelwerk, 1977), 49-50)."
And are you sure i should call him out on that, no "primary source" that confirms the existence of Jesus.
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LOL i just noticed these are mere quotes and still no empirical evidence XD
"These mainly cover all three:
John Alsup: “The Post Resurrection Appearances of the Gospel Tradition.”
Edward L. Bode: The First Easter Morning.
C.H. Dode: “the Appearances of the Risen Christ: A Study in the Form Criticism of the Gospels.”
Craig A. Evans “Life-of-Jesus Research and the Eclipse of Mythology.”
Robert Gundry: “Soma in Biblical Theology.”
Whatever William Lane Craig has written on the issue.
Whatever N.T. Wright has written on the issue.
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And that practically all scholars agree on the three fact above, I guess the only way I can show you this is to use the information that I came to know this, namely, scholars in the field that mention that.
“Mark Allen Powell: "The dominant view is that the passion narratives are early and based on eyewitness testimony" (Journal of the American Academy of Religion 68 [2000]: 171).”
Paula Frederickson: "The disciples' conviction that they had seen the Risen Christ . . . [is] historical bedrock, facts known past doubting" (Jesus of Nazareth [New York: Vintage, 1999], 264).
Geza Vermes, "When every argument has been considered and weighed, the only conclusion acceptable to the historian must be that . . . the women who set out to pay their last respects to Jesus found to their consternation, not a body, but an empty tomb" (Jesus the Jew, p. 41).
Jacob Kremer: "By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb" (Die Osterevangelien--Geschichten um Geschichte (Stuttgart: Katholisches Bibelwerk, 1977), 49-50)."
And are you sure i should call him out on that, no "primary source" that confirms the existence of Jesus.
EDIT ~>
LOL i just noticed these are mere quotes and still no empirical evidence XD
I refuse to agree to disagree. :cool2: