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I need help with refutations for this
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RE: I need help with refutations for this
(April 23, 2011 at 7:11 pm)Eleazar Wrote:
(April 23, 2011 at 1:51 pm)MrJatt Wrote: 1. I think belief in God is properly basic.
2. The likelihood of my cognitive structure structure retaining true beliefs is greater than on theism, than given atheism).

now i do not have the knowledge to refute these except the 5th one, so i need some help to understand and perhaps refute this.
Hi there, MrJatt. If you are looking for more information about 1 and 2, you will want to read up on Alvin Plantinga, who argues for these main points (and others) in a multi-volume work on epistemology. The first is an argument that theism can be rational without knowledge of a good argument for theism; the second is normally called the "Evolutionary Argument against Naturalism" (EAAN) which argues that the conjunction of evolution and naturalism is self-defeating. I don't know how familiar you are with philosophy and these arguments in particular, but if you've not come across Plantinga before there are some good interviews of him at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7377jU2a8Y and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yNg4MJgTFw where he explains his views on the two arguments. If your friend is a philosopher, you will want to make sure that you understand the strongest form of his arguments before you attempt a refutation.

Thank you for the links, i understand them now yet i don't see how anyone could believe these to be true.
I refuse to agree to disagree. :cool2:
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I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 23, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Gawdzilla - April 23, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 3:09 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 23, 2011 at 3:58 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Justtristo - April 23, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 23, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 23, 2011 at 6:56 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Eleazar - April 23, 2011 at 7:11 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 23, 2011 at 9:16 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Eleazar - April 24, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Eleazar - April 25, 2011 at 5:34 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Eleazar - April 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Eleazar - April 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by padraic - April 23, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Zen Badger - April 23, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 23, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 2:08 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 2:09 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2011 at 6:22 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 24, 2011 at 2:55 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 10:26 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 6:41 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 10:42 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by theVOID - April 24, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by MrJatt - April 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: I need help with refutations for this - by Minimalist - April 25, 2011 at 11:59 am

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