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Poll: I am curious to know
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Curious to know
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RE: Curious to know
(June 20, 2016 at 10:31 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(June 20, 2016 at 12:29 am)robvalue Wrote: We all know, and Rik has acknowledged in the past, that brains can produce experiences which aren't real.

Why exactly is this any different? Why would you assume something as bizarre and vague as "God" as a starting point and expect people to prove you wrong? The starting point is "we don't know". Brains producing weird shit under extreme stress is a very simple and reasonable explanation, one which is backed by evidence.

I could hold a similarly absurd position that dreams all actually happen, and invite people to prove me wrong. All it shows is I don't understand how evidence works.

And again, you can have a NDE that doesn't (in reality) involve anything to do with the supposed supernatural. I think Rik believes a NDE is by definition some sort of interaction with the spirit realm. It isn't. The fact that so many people interpret it that way is irrelevant. If that is what Rik means by a NDE, he needs to use another term.


Roberto, you get confused once again.  Banging Head On Desk
Forget about the brain.
The heart stop working, the blood and oxygen stop flowing in the head-brain so the brain is off.
How the hell can this brain produce hallucinations?  Smile
Have you ever seen a car run without fuel in it or a dead donkey pull a cart?

Get real Roberto.
It is the consciousness that take over after the body is dead that produce the experience in the other
dimension not an hallucinated brain.  Lightbulb

If the 'brain is off', that's called being dead.  Not near-death.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: Curious to know - by LastPoet - June 19, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: Curious to know - by Athene - June 19, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: Curious to know - by paulpablo - June 19, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: Curious to know - by Athene - June 19, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Curious to know - by KevinM1 - June 19, 2016 at 11:05 am
RE: Curious to know - by paulpablo - June 19, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 19, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Curious to know - by rexbeccarox - June 19, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Curious to know - by KevinM1 - June 19, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: Curious to know - by emjay - June 19, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Curious to know - by I Like Pumpkins - June 19, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Curious to know - by tjakey - June 19, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Curious to know - by Athene - June 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 19, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Curious to know - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Curious to know - by LastPoet - June 19, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Curious to know - by The Valkyrie - June 19, 2016 at 4:33 pm
RE: Curious to know - by The Valkyrie - June 19, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 19, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Thumpalumpacus - June 19, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Curious to know - by KevinM1 - June 19, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Curious to know - by account_inactive - June 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Pat Mustard - June 19, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little lunch - June 19, 2016 at 10:16 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Esquilax - June 19, 2016 at 11:32 pm
RE: Curious to know - by The Valkyrie - June 20, 2016 at 12:38 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 19, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Silver - June 20, 2016 at 12:10 am
RE: Curious to know - by Esquilax - June 20, 2016 at 12:06 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 20, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: Curious to know - by The Valkyrie - June 20, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 20, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Curious to know - by Thumpalumpacus - June 20, 2016 at 1:42 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 20, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: Curious to know - by SofaKingHigh - June 20, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Curious to know - by FatAndFaithless - June 20, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Curious to know - by ignoramus - June 20, 2016 at 2:17 am
RE: Curious to know - by energizer bunny - June 20, 2016 at 3:41 am
RE: Curious to know - by Dust_bunny - June 20, 2016 at 3:46 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 20, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Curious to know - by paulpablo - June 20, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 20, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little lunch - June 20, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 20, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by SofaKingHigh - June 20, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 20, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Curious to know - by SofaKingHigh - June 20, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 20, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by The Valkyrie - June 20, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 20, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cecelia - June 20, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 20, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 20, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 20, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 20, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 20, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Losty - June 20, 2016 at 8:29 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Minimalist - June 20, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 20, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Magilla - June 20, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: Curious to know - by IATIA - June 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Curious to know - by KevinM1 - June 21, 2016 at 12:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 22, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 22, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 9:27 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 22, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 10:07 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 22, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 23, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 23, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Rhondazvous - June 24, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 26, 2016 at 12:45 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 26, 2016 at 9:06 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 27, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 27, 2016 at 4:22 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 28, 2016 at 8:37 am
RE: Curious to know - by Gemini - June 28, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 28, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 29, 2016 at 8:30 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 4:09 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 21, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Curious to know - by Thumpalumpacus - June 21, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 21, 2016 at 8:12 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 22, 2016 at 9:44 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 22, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 23, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 23, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 25, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Curious to know - by surreptitious57 - June 21, 2016 at 5:15 am
RE: Curious to know - by chimp3 - June 21, 2016 at 5:53 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 7:26 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 21, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 21, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: Curious to know - by mlmooney89 - June 21, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Rhondazvous - June 21, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Rhondazvous - June 21, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 21, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Pat Mustard - June 21, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: Curious to know - by lisah - June 21, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 22, 2016 at 3:00 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 8:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by Fake Messiah - June 22, 2016 at 3:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 7:59 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 22, 2016 at 8:06 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 8:22 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 22, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 22, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 22, 2016 at 8:31 am
RE: Curious to know - by emjay - June 22, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 22, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by emjay - June 22, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 22, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 23, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 23, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Curious to know - by Angrboda - June 23, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 22, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 22, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 23, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 23, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 22, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Fake Messiah - June 23, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 23, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Curious to know - by brewer - June 23, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 23, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 25, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 25, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: Curious to know - by dom.donald - June 23, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Curious to know - by deleteduser12345 - June 24, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: Curious to know - by Spirian - June 24, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Rhondazvous - June 26, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 7:45 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 25, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 25, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 9:06 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Curious to know - by deleteduser12345 - June 25, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 26, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Curious to know - by deleteduser12345 - June 26, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Curious to know - by Whateverist - June 25, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: Curious to know - by Fake Messiah - June 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 9:59 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 25, 2016 at 10:05 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 10:11 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 26, 2016 at 8:51 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 26, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Lek - June 26, 2016 at 3:43 pm
RE: Curious to know - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 26, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Lek - June 26, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: Curious to know - by dyresand - June 26, 2016 at 11:39 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Lek - June 26, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 26, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 27, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Curious to know - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 25, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 25, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Ayen - June 25, 2016 at 6:07 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 26, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 26, 2016 at 9:40 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 27, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - June 26, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 26, 2016 at 10:21 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 26, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - June 26, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 26, 2016 at 3:54 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Ayen - June 26, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Expired - June 27, 2016 at 4:56 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 27, 2016 at 6:08 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 28, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 27, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - June 27, 2016 at 6:28 am
RE: Curious to know - by LostLocke - June 28, 2016 at 8:03 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 28, 2016 at 7:27 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 29, 2016 at 8:08 am
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - June 28, 2016 at 9:08 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 28, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - June 28, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 29, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 29, 2016 at 9:29 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 29, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Curious to know - by Joods - June 29, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 29, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - June 29, 2016 at 10:41 am
RE: Curious to know - by Redbeard The Pink - June 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Curious to know - by emjay - June 29, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Curious to know - by Crossless1 - June 29, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Curious to know - by Cyberman - June 29, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Curious to know - by Joods - June 29, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Excited Penguin - June 29, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 29, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Excited Penguin - June 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 29, 2016 at 12:12 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Excited Penguin - June 29, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Homeless Nutter - June 29, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - July 3, 2016 at 4:36 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - July 3, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - July 3, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - July 3, 2016 at 5:17 am
RE: Curious to know - by Little Rik - July 3, 2016 at 5:41 am
RE: Curious to know - by Edwardo Piet - July 3, 2016 at 5:48 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - July 3, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: Curious to know - by robvalue - June 19, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Curious to know - by Thumpalumpacus - June 19, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: Curious to know - by LastPoet - June 19, 2016 at 10:26 am

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