(June 21, 2016 at 4:09 am)robvalue Wrote: You could change the question to every atheist on the forum suddenly turning up with stories about meeting God. Any stories. I don't care. Evidence or GTFO. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and anecdotes are terrible evidence. Absolutely terrible. For anything except the mundane, they are next to worthless. Even huge numbers of anecdotes are worthless. For mundane claims, sure. For relatively unimportant claims, sure. I'll settle for anecdotes from people I trust. But not for claims regarding stuff not even understood by science. My wife tells me stories about ghosts and other such weirdness. I believe she believes them, but I don't believe her conclusions are correct.
Roberto.

Let me saying something about science or the physical science that you mean.
The consciousness is something abstract not something physical therefore it is obvious that
the physical science is unable to understand it.
The only way to understand consciousness is by practicing yoga meditation.
There have been researches on meditation as I already show in this thread
http://atheistforums.org/thread-43495.html
but it is all related about the way that the brain react to meditation not as to how a person feel
about the change within.
Quote:I'd be interested to investigate what exactly has gone on to make all these atheists lose their shit at once. I'd suspect some other explanation. But I simply wouldn't know.
And to prove a point, if all the theists in this forum turned up one day with stories of how they went outside the universe or some shit and saw there was no god, would little Rik believe them on weight of numbers? And become an atheist? I'm thinking no. I'm thinking he'd want evidence, all of a sudden.
Wrong again Roberto.

Forget about what would happen IF and take in consideration what has gone on so far with NDEs.
So far people of all background (theists, atheists, non theists and not atheists) that have gone through
a real NDE confirm that God exist and the other dimension is the real MaCoy.