RE: UK to leave EU
June 25, 2016 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2016 at 11:14 am by madog.)
(June 25, 2016 at 11:00 am)Emjay Wrote:(June 25, 2016 at 10:17 am)madog Wrote: Emjay said ..... "And if Bella is part of the LGBT community, as I am"
The ECHR has championed LBGT and every other minorities wrongly differentiated against by laws, rules of Public authorities and national Courts and numerous other discriminations in the 47 member States of the Council of Europe since the 1950's.
As I have pointed out the ECHR can not bring a case against the EU because the EU failed accession which goes back to 1974 after France, the final EU member state that ratified the ECHR ....
The EU is growing and has and may well include eastern European nations, Turkey, and who knows the nations the future may bring ...
The UK is very liberal, whatever people try to make out, but even if they violate a minorities human rights they have the ECHR .... But the EU has or will have some member states that are unlikely to be any where near as liberal as the UK .... They will be voting on issues that can Direct the UK to violate the ECHR .... and as I said the EU can not be ruled on by the ECHR ...
I have provided an example for the above, although the principle I tried to point out was not taken seriously ...
Okay, my apologies. I don't know much about how the ECHR works but all I do know is we need to keep it, but I've always associated it as part and parcel of being in the EU. You're saying that's not the case... and they're actually in opposition... or can be?
The UK ratified European Convention of Human Rights ECHR in the 50's ..... there are 47 members of the Council of Europe.
We joined the EU in the 70's and when France ratified the ECHR in 1974, pressure was put on the EU to accede to the ECHR ... it has been an ongoing promise put off and off .... they still haven't 42 years later ...
Although the European Institutions are not a party to the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR) they did a fudge with "The Charter of Fundamental Rights" which became legally binding on the EU with the Treaty of Lisbon, in December 2009.
It should be noted this is self regulation and they can not be ruled against by the European Courts of Human Rights

(June 25, 2016 at 11:09 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(June 25, 2016 at 10:17 am)madog Wrote: [...]The EU is growing and has and may well include eastern European nations, Turkey, and who knows the nations the future may bring ...
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What are you talking about? Who says Turkey is joining EU? Where do you get this stuff? What "nations the future may bring"? Martians?
And you're surprised you're not taken seriously? Stop fear-mongering already - your side won, for whatever reasons, you can give the bullsh*t a rest. If you feel the need to rationalize your (poor) judgement, then maybe you're not as pleased with the outcome of the referendum, as you claim to be...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_...pean_Union
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog