RE: UK to leave EU
June 25, 2016 at 11:38 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2016 at 11:44 am by madog.)
(June 25, 2016 at 11:32 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(June 25, 2016 at 11:15 am)Allanon Wrote: All it takes is a quick search on Google... [...]
Yeah, thanks. What exactly is that supposed to prove? I'm not denying Turkey would like to be a member, but there are no indications that it will become one in foreseeable future.
Err ... Turkey has been an associate member since 1963, they have to fulfill a certain 72 requirements, they have presently satisfied 65 ... Neither you or I can state whether they will be a member, but they are certainly in line

(June 25, 2016 at 11:38 am)Emjay Wrote:(June 25, 2016 at 11:27 am)madog Wrote: This is misleading .. no European nation can join the EU without being in the Council of Europe and to be in the Council of Europe you must have ratified the ECHR ... Only the EU can put their finger up at the ECHR ....
I don't understand what you mean by "the four freedoms of the EU conventions and the human rights charta" note I spent seven years against two nations, without a lawyer bringing actions in the ECHR ....
But wasn't it part of the Brexit campaign to get rid of the ECHR? And replace the Human Rights Act with a Bill of Rights? How does that fit into this?
The UK introduced the UK Human rights act in 1998 which is exactly the same as the ECHR, and relies on case-law of the Court of Human Rights ... it was only introduced for convenience so violations could be dealt with in the UK courts to cut down the waiting time and inconvenience in going to Strasbourg ... But even if a violation failed in the UK Courts it can still go to the ECHR ...
A lot of bull is spread by politicians, the UK will never leave the ECHR ....
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog