RE: Curious to know
June 25, 2016 at 6:07 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2016 at 6:08 pm by T.J..)
I'm a lazy fuck who cba to read 19 pages, so I apologize if I'm retreading ground here.
As a general rule I don't take anyone at their word since people are liars and we live in an age where it's even easier to manipulate things to push an agenda. And that isn't even getting into hallucinations or people with mental illness. So without evidence that proved beyond a reasonable doubt that God exists, no, I wouldn't believe, and here is where I reach my problem with this entire debate.
What are you even trying accomplish with this? Say for sake of argument a theist actually manages to prove beyond a reasonable doubt (assuming this version of God even matches your own) that He exists. Then what? Admittedly, it'd be exciting at first and a breath of fresh air because it'd bring in new discussion. Though we'd have to deal with all the smug assholes who would go, "Hahahahahaha I told you so!" and explain to them we were never unreasonable in the first place because all of them couldn't prove jack shit before. But one of two things would happen depending how much this hypothetical God would match up to (insert religious text here)
1.) People would convert merely out of fear
2.) People would still refuse to follow a corrupt god knowing full and well they'd burn in hell for it (assuming hell was proven in addition).
Unless of course it's a different god that's proven real, in which case an added third option appears.
3.) People still refuse to believe that version of god exists above their own despite physical evidence for the same reason there are people who still think the earth is flat.
Your religion would cease being about faith (if it ever was to begin with) and become 100% about fear with those of us holding our ground in the face of damnation. Am I to assume your endgame is to bring people to you out of fear? Because that's the only conclusion I can see in all of this, and that seems to be the prime motivation a lot of people stay in the fold.
Of course, I could also tell you what would happen if Maisie Williams came to my house and offered to give me a blowjob because it's not going to happen.
As a general rule I don't take anyone at their word since people are liars and we live in an age where it's even easier to manipulate things to push an agenda. And that isn't even getting into hallucinations or people with mental illness. So without evidence that proved beyond a reasonable doubt that God exists, no, I wouldn't believe, and here is where I reach my problem with this entire debate.
What are you even trying accomplish with this? Say for sake of argument a theist actually manages to prove beyond a reasonable doubt (assuming this version of God even matches your own) that He exists. Then what? Admittedly, it'd be exciting at first and a breath of fresh air because it'd bring in new discussion. Though we'd have to deal with all the smug assholes who would go, "Hahahahahaha I told you so!" and explain to them we were never unreasonable in the first place because all of them couldn't prove jack shit before. But one of two things would happen depending how much this hypothetical God would match up to (insert religious text here)
1.) People would convert merely out of fear
2.) People would still refuse to follow a corrupt god knowing full and well they'd burn in hell for it (assuming hell was proven in addition).
Unless of course it's a different god that's proven real, in which case an added third option appears.
3.) People still refuse to believe that version of god exists above their own despite physical evidence for the same reason there are people who still think the earth is flat.
Your religion would cease being about faith (if it ever was to begin with) and become 100% about fear with those of us holding our ground in the face of damnation. Am I to assume your endgame is to bring people to you out of fear? Because that's the only conclusion I can see in all of this, and that seems to be the prime motivation a lot of people stay in the fold.
Of course, I could also tell you what would happen if Maisie Williams came to my house and offered to give me a blowjob because it's not going to happen.