UK to leave EU

[Homeless Nutter]

I'm sorry but it wasn't... his argument has been trivialised to being about vaping when that was just an example. I think he makes a good point about the EU not being bound by the ECHR. Not a good enough point to make me change my position but enough to be worth thinking about and something to hope to change if we get the EU back.

It might be worth mentioning at this point, that the current government is planning to repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act, which is what protects the rights of British citizens, afforded by the European Convention on Human Rights. This - together with leaving the EU - would likely mean UK withdrawing from ECHR altogether.

The return of a majority Conservative government in last week’s general election in the UK has made the Conservative Party’s plans for reforming human rights law in the United Kingdom a likely prospect. It is recalled that on 3 October 2014, the Conservative Party published a policy document that sets out its proposal to repeal the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) and replace it with a British Bill of Rights.

http://ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/the-legal-impli...an-rights/

Here's the pdf of the policy document in question, if anyone fancies a read. https://www.conservatives.com/~/media/fi...rights.pdf

Here are some bits:

[...]Our reforms will mean that:
• The European Court of Human Rights is no longer binding over the UK Supreme Court.
• The European Court of Human Rights is no longer able to order a change in UK law and
becomes an advisory body only.[...]

In other words - the Conservatives don't want to be bound by ECHR either.

The key objectives of our new Bill are:
[...]
• Limit the use of human rights laws to the most serious cases. The use of the new law will be
limited to cases that involve criminal law and the liberty of an individual, the right to property
and similar serious matters.[...]

"Most serious cases", huh? Will that include cases of people prevented from "commercially communicating" about vaping, or will human rights laws not apply to such trivial matters? I wonder.

[...]
• In the event that we are unable to reach that agreement, the UK would be left with no
alternative but to withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights, at the point
at which our Bill comes into effect. [...]

To sum up - because EU allegedly is not bound by ECHR, UK should withdraw from both EU and ECHR...

As for what the new Bill of Rights, concocted by the Torys will look like - I'll leave it to your imaginations...