(June 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Abaris, one of the huge things that pulled at my conscious was this very thing, maybe I'm an optimist in thinking that we don't need the EU to stop Europe falling into all out war again.
Maybe I'm a fool, we'll see.
I'm not that optimistic, since, as I said in my own thread, we had a shooting war at our borders with border violations in 1991. Most of these former Yugoslavianian countries are now part of the EU with Serbia as a candidate. If they all left, due to nationalism - not as remote a possibility as it may seem - the border disputes would start over in an instance. They still have accounts to settle with each others.
Also, our own nationalists, have announced their craving for Southern Tirol - part of Italy since Trianon. Now we're not strong enough to take military action, but if they came to power and turned that demand into policy, it would sour our relationship with Italy considerably. Also, not as remote a possibility as it seems.
As for Germany - still doesn't look as if the AFD or any other nationalist movement could come to power in the foreseeable future. But there are streams on the right that never accepted the loss of Prussia to Poland.
Only scratching the surface there. De Gaule and Adenauer had the right idea. Let's not destroy that in a short sighted manner.